""Kevin Wigle"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > and two penneth won't get you a MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks. I'll raise that to a > fiver if you can. > > I recently undertook and completed MCSE 2000, this after having MCSE 4.0 and > 3.51 which is to say that I've been "aware" of Microsoft products for some > time. > > I took 7 exams because I didn't want to try and sit the 4 hour make up exam > even though I qualified to take it.
I see that Microsoft has (again) changed its W2k mcse policies. Now the old NT4 electives now count as w2k electives. Which means that you could have gotten by with only 5 exams (and carried 2 of your older electives from NT4). You can see it here, and see how W2k is now accepting things like IIS4 and TCP/IP: http://www.microsoft.com/trainingandservices/default.asp?PageID=mcp&PageCall =requirements&SubSite=cert/mcse&AnnMenu=mcse It's nice that Microsoft has made the W2k exams, especially the design exams, harder. But that doesn't do a whole lot of good if people don't have to go through a lot of those w2k exams. Consider this. Somebody who is already NT4 certified could get the 2k MCSE with only two more exams - that accelerated make-up exam, and one design exam. That's really not that many. > > One week studying from books, one week to do Transcender for each exam > translates into 14 weeks. > > However, everyone thinks I was nuts and I didn't have a life in those 14 > weeks, every night and weekend was studying. > > I have enough Cisco initials to be "aware" of the Cisco curriculum and I > would be among those who would say that there is no comparing MCSE to CCNP > (or CCDP). > > But, the new W2K exams are not like the old NT exams. The "Design" exams > though not really testing putting circuits together are still long hard > tests that challenge your ability to see the issues and determine an > appropriate solution based on the given requirements and conditions. > > All this to say - if you pass MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks (with odd breaks in > between) with no previous Microsoft exams behind you - you will accomplish > something that few if any others have that's why out of 400,000 plus MCSEs > worldwide, only 47,000 have re-qualified to date. I suggest you visit > http://www.examcram.com and read the exam reviews by Orin. (especially 216) > > It's fine to have a healthy opinion of Cisco vs Microsoft accreditations but > I do think you are severely underestimating the new Microsoft exams. > > Kevin Wigle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gareth Hinton" > To: > Sent: Sunday, 21 October, 2001 12:42 > Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680] > > > > "ccie r catching up with ...mcse now" > > > > > > That's a bit of a wild inaccurate statement. > > > > I reckon after doing my CCNP it wouldn't take too long to get past the > CCIE > > written with 4 to 6 weeks good study. > > I reckon the CCIE Lab could take me a year or more of hard work to get > > anywhere near it, if ever. > > I am looking at the doing the MCSE to broaden the knowledge a little. > > Looking through the syllabus I am looking at around 6 weeks of study with > > odd breaks in between. > > > > MCSE and CCIE will never be comparable. > > It amuses me when people do compare them. > > I think "CCIE written" is a little misleading - As far as I'm concerned > its > > a fairly testing written exam to stop time wasters taking what is the real > > CCIE exam - The LAB. > > > > > > My two penneth... > > > > > > Gaz Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=23737&t=23680 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]