The business cycle demands downturns. They perform the needed function of
ridding the economy of businesses that are poorly run or poorly placed in
the market. Now to be honest I could have done without this "Widespread"
downturn that's hitting so many sectors at once but its here so might as
well see the silver lining. Of course we could have done completely without
the reason for this current state of affairs but again nothing I can do
about it so may as well do our best in the meantime. Things are going to
change a lot in the coming months best get ready for whatever may happen but
I prefer a good attitude during it all. If you or anyone else wishes to drop
the idea of becoming a CCIE that's ok with me too for obvious reasons.

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Excited about an economic downturn, eh?  Reminds me of those kids in school
who would remind the teacher that she didn't assign any homework.




""Dan Faulk""  wrote in message
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> Great point Chuck, this current downturn is not near what we went though
in
> the late 70's early 80's or back in 90. Apply Chucks advice, build your
> skills while this current market continues cause it will get better.
> Personally Im excited about this, a lot of corp deadwood is being trimmed
> and what survives will be much stronger. As for Juniper, nice idea but not
> very possible without a ton of capital. Besides there are more important
> things out there to worry about than certs right now. Keep a good outlook
> and dig in, nothing lasts forever.
>
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> Chuck Larrieu
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:52 PM
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> Subject: RE: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]
>
>
> for those who've never seen one in their adult working lives, yeah, this
is
> a serious downturn, and yeah, the economy is bad right now. Don't worry -
> skilled people can always find work. there are going to be a lot of
> structural changes over the next few years. Keep your skills up. Keep a
good
> attitude. Keep reading, and practicing and thinking.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: is it really bad market for ccie ? [7:24297]
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>
> some one (lots of them ) said it's really hard to find job in networking
> even for ccie or dual ccie ,is it really true people ?
> the 1 day lab is really getting harder (much harder than the 2 day) and
> cisco has to many ccie track now ,why bother getting ccie security or com
> when one can not get a job, ccie of ...hope maybe
>  same thing for juniper i guess
>  2 months ago i really looking forward to my lab but now i'm having second
> though .
>  just my 2 cent




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