I would say we agree to agree :-)

In terms of the accuracy of the IPv4 assignmentin the link, it 
should be pretty current.  This was cut and pasted from the top 
header:

INTERNET PROTOCOL V4 ADDRESS SPACE

(last updated 2001 September 12)

Clearly there is a move to return address space back to the 
registries.  

v/r,

Paul Werner




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---- On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Chuck Larrieu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> if the Bates Report is any indication, the trend is actually 
towards
> more
> fragmentation of the former class A space. ARIN has been 
allocating out
> of
> 64, 65, 66, blocks, for example. Those in turn have been 
doled out to
> various ISP's and other organizations as something longer 
than /8 -
> usually
> /16 or even longer, from what I can tell on quick notice. I 
believe RIPE
> recently opened up the 80 block. I seem to recall APNIC 
recently
> announcing
> opening of the 210/8 or 218/8 block. Saw it on NANOG a few 
weeks back, I
> think.
> 
> In other words, for public IP space, I don't think anyone 
other than the
> registries themselves have title to more than one /8 address 
block.
> Which
> would therefore render the argument of supernetting /8's as 
moot.
> 
> I suppose someone could do something like that in the 10 
space, but one
> has
> to wonder why?
> 
> BTW, looking over the allocation table at:
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> 
> interesting. anyone know how up to date this is?
> 
> Chuck
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
Behalf Of
> Paul Werner
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: Subject: Re: quick response (help) please 
[7:24238]
> 
> 
> Agreed.  While it is possible to supernet class A
> addresses, it is generally impractical for the
> most part, unless the ISP/AS that is summarizing
> two Class A addresses owns both address spaces
> (and they are contiguous).  I might suspect that
> somebody such as UUNet or AOL or Sprint might do
> it, but checking the ARIN registry and IANA, I
> cannot readily find any of them with contiguous
> netblocks in the Class A address space for ISP
> use.  There are a few, but I would expect those
> that exist to get returned back to IANA for
> reassignment (watch wrap):
> 
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> 
> Class B and Class C address space is an entirely
> different matter w.r.t supernetting.  You will
> note that just about all of the Class C address
> space is set up and optimized for supernetting
> based upon registry (read geographic)
> allocation.  That makes sense.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Paul Werner
> 
> 
> ---- On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, Thomas Larus
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > Great point.  It's not a supernet of anything.
> Not with the first octet
> > being 24.
> >
> > Thomas Larus
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Werner"
> > To: ; "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 4:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Subject: Re: quick response (help)
> please [7:24238]
> >
> >
> > > Just as a clarification to what you wrote and
> the terminology
> > > that you used, how exactly are you defining
> a "Supernet,"
> > > particularly on this network?
> > >
> > > v/r,
> > >
> > > Paul Werner
> > >
> > > > I could be wrong here, but I would imagine
> the reason this
> > > works is that
> > > > you
> > > > have a supernet there, with the mask of
> 255.255.248.0, so the
> > > hosts
> > > > address
> > > > is not all-ones, so is not treated as a
> broadcast address.
> > > The host
> > > > address
> > > > includes 3 binary digits from the third
> octet (125), so it
> > > works out to
> > > > be
> > > > 101 11111111.  I guess that zero saves it
> from being a
> > > broadacst
> > > > address.
> > > >
> > > > Is this right, or did the Cable ISP just
> screw up?
> > > >
> > > > Thomas Larus
> > > > ""John Green""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > the IP address alloted by the dhcp server
> to my home
> > > > > computer (via cable ie cable modem
> connection) is
> > > > >
> > > > > IP address   24.15.125.255
> > > > > subnet mask  255.255.248.0
> > > > > def gw       24.15.125.1
> > > > >
> > > > > ok look ar the last quad .... it is
> 255 !!!
> > > > > i can't believe this.
> > > > >
> > > > > do you how this is possible ? 0 and 255
> are rserved
> > > > > for network and broadcast addresses.....
> > > > >
> > > > > please email me asap...........
> 
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