Line hits are caused by physical disturbances, electronic influences on the transmission medium. The question draws attention to the serial connection between B1 and B2, and a possible difference between Ethernet connections. Ethernet makes no provision for physical layer protocol retransmission in the face of erred communications. An explanation follows.
There are different physical layer protocol entities for Ethernet, notably MLT-3 for fast Ethernet, Manchester for Ethernet, etc. These are actual protocols for transferring bit streams over a common medium and only serve to perform line encoding. When an error presents itself, most often these errors register as invalid code signals to the distant end, which somehow gets translated into a data signal, forcibly in the case of Ethernet. After this process is complete the bit streams are compacted and provisioned into 8-bit boundaries and are passed up to the data link layer. At this point, the communication enters the prevue of a central processing unit. The OS controlling the CPU would naturally do a CRC function on the received data stream and extract the CRC that was computed by the sending node, and do a comparison of the two. Actual implementations could vary. This in essence is an overview of Ethernet Technology. The important thing to remember is that there is not a protocol function that occurs at the point the bit streams are sent from the hardware to the main CPU (channel access functions are handled in hardware on a NIC). All communication is accepted carte blanche, and naturally so. Ethernet is primarily a LAN technology were error prone communications (caused by EMI or other naturally occurring phenomenon) is tightly controlled and minimized. In serial communication technology there is such a protocol function because there is a higher chance of their being electromagnetic influences, propagation delay, etc. In serial communications at the point that the bit streams are decoded into logical binary words (that 8 bit provisioning scheme aforementioned). There is a protocol function implemented to control the actual reception and healthiness of the bit streams. HDLC is the default protocol for Cisco Routers, but there are other notables. Such as Bi-Sync, SDLC, LAPB, PPP, etc. In some of these protocols there are provisions for the retransmission of frames when errors are detected, channel multiplexing, stream windowing as well as frame sequencing and acknowledgements. Why this long answer? Remember the question draws attention to the physical layer when 'line hits' are mentioned. Further clues were given when the only difference mentioned was a change in physical composition. It's up to you to decide if the test maker in this instance is testing to see if you know all of this, judged by the overall difficulty of the exam. To answer your question if there is a line hit between B1 and B2, B1 will always retransmit. In most serial encapsulations method, the frame never clears the buffers on B1 until B2 acknowledges reception to B1. There was an effort to add this amount of reliability to Ethernet and Token Ring environments, hence LLC which is a spin off of sorts of HDLC for serial communications. With LLC there are actually 3 different modes of communication. Type 1 is the normal mode that you would normally see in modern networking environments (Type 2 is more usual for Token Ring). Type 2 is modeled after communication qualities that serial communications need to overcome. Type 3 is not commonly used. To be succinct, it is like slapping a serial protocol over Ethernet or Token Ring. When Ethernet is behaving like a serial interface it will buffer, acknowledge and retransmit erred frames just like a serial interface (In that case, each intermediate device is responsible for retransmitting any frames with errors). Like everything else in life, the true answer depends on what you are doing. To be safe, let me point out that all of this nonsense usually is spoken of in the books as residing at the Data Link layer. I believe the test question may also be trying to confuse you with what are the responsibilities of the Transport layer (TCP to be exact). But what if you aren't even using TCP, What if you are using UDP over IP over Ethernet? There is clearly no retransmission effort going on here. All confusing isn't it? Don't worry in time you'll sort it all out. Cheers and Good Luck, WAYNE BAETY, MCSE, A1C, USAF Network Systems Trainer -----Original Message----- From: Todd Carswell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928] Here's the setup for my 2 questions... PCA-------B1-----------B2--------PCB Bridge 1 and Bridge 2 are running Transparent Bridging between them. Question 1: There's a SERIAL connection between B1 and B2. B1 and B2 are configured for transparent bridging. If PCA sends a packet to PCB and the frame is errored somehow, who takes care of the retransmission? I assume it's PCA because it's a serial connection. Am I right? Question 2: There's an ETHERNET connection between B1 and B2. The bridges are still using Transparent Bridging and PCA sends a packet to PCB. Again, the frame has an error. Will B1 be the device to handle the retransmission? Thanks, guys! Todd Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=26064&t=25928 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]