Yeah exactly - YMMV. I'm a pretty laissez-faire, free-market kind of guy, but on the subject of IP address conservation, I think there should be more centralized formal rules about who gets an address and who doesn't. Just a few months ago, I was contracting with a large-company who needed more addresses, and their ISP was giving them a really hard time about it, and ultimately only gave them a few more addresses and told them to NAT. At the same time, I was contracting part-time with a startup that was able to secure an entire class C from their ISP, even though at that time they had, I believe 10 employees and at most 20 systems.
""Wayne Wenthin"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Greetings, > Working for an ISP I can say that most of them will make you justify the > space. ARIN will make us justify it to get more so we are pretty stingy > (much to the consternation of the sales people) about giving out class C > space. Of course as always YMMV. > > Wayne > > > At 08:30 AM 11/21/2001, Ken Diliberto wrote: > >Hello. > > > >Getting your own class C address space and getting one from your ISP are two > >different things. The ISP owns the address space, the customer doesn't. If > >the customer decides not to use that ISP for some reason, the ISP can (and > >probably will) take it back. To get your own, you apply to ARIN. ARIN is > >interested in conservation. The ISP will probably just charge a little more > >(or maybe not). > > > >All it takes for the address space to be visible to the Internet is to > >advertise it in BGP on its own. > > > >Ken > > > > >>> "nrf" 11/21/01 09:06AM >>> > >Howard, > > > >For the sake of IP address conservation, I would like to believe what you > >say. > > > >Unfortunately I happen to know several small companies that were able to > >secure entire Class C's with nary a protest from their ISP's, and yes they > >are all globally routed. The most addresses any one of those companies is > >using within that class range is 10 of those addresses - waste galore. > >Apparently many ISP's aren't as vigilant as they should be. > > > > > > > >""Howard C. Berkowitz"" wrote in message > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > >where can i get a class C ip address block ? I check everywhere .... > > > >everyone is saying they only provide a block of /19. > > > > > > > >Anyone can help ? > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > >Shella > > > > > > > What do you want to do with it? In the real world, it can be very > > > hard to get a provider-independent /24, and even harder to get it > > > globally routed. Your best solution may be to design your > > > environment to be renumbering-friendly, and get a /24 from your > > > upstream provider. > > > > > > In general, you will have to demonstrate 50% immediate use of a /20 > > > to get your own allocation. > > > > > > Incidentally, don't think Class C in getting assignments, think /24 > > > (if that's what you actually need). Class-based allocation is long > > > obsolete in the public network, regardless of what Cisco teaches in > > > basic courses. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=27091&t=26814 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
