q.921 is D channel, but is like a layer two protocol in that it just cares
about addressing on the wire beteen the equip and the swich.

q.931 is only run on D channel.  Q.931 is part of Q.SIG, the telecom
standard signalling.  This is LAPD.

If an ISDN packet is lost in the end-user context, corrupted, or whatever, I
would think a higher level protocol would request retans if it was reliable
(TCP) and not ISDN.  Theres not even a seq number in q.931, so I would't
think it would know it was missing a frame.

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> Some troubleshooting books (like CIT) make a big deal about the
reliability
> and connection-oriented nature of ISDN which got me thinking...
>
> Q.921 is definitely reliable and connection-oriented (looks just like
LLC2,
> in fact), but it only runs on the D channel, right? (It's also known as
> LAPD.)
>
> How about Q.931? Does it only run on the D channel? It seems to deal with
> signalling issues, such as call setup. (Does it have a LAP designation, by
> the way?)
>
> For end-user data, my theory is that ISDN doesn't provide any reliability.
> Is that right? Data on the B channel would typically be encapsulated in
PPP
> which does not offer reliability (ACKs and retransmissions).
>
> I'm trying to synthesize an answer to the silly question about who
> retransmits when a bit is changed or dropped on a WAN network. Here's my
> summarization. Does it look OK?
>
> Technology    Provides Reliability? (ACKs and retransmissions)
> ATM           No
> BISYNC        Yes
> Cisco's HDLC  No
> ISDN          No, except on the D Channel which uses LAPD
> Frame Relay   No
> LAPB          Yes
> LAPD, Q.921   Yes
> PPP           No
> SDLC          Yes
> X.25          Uses LAPB, so Yes
>
> Thanks!
>
> Priscilla
>
> ________________________
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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