Absolutely,

CCIE is by no means the end of me, and I am not after vast riches, I
plan on staying with my current company a long time.  I have really just
deicided to become certifeid because I lack education.  But that won't
be for long either.  Thank You for your comments.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:17 PM
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Subject: RE: ADMIN to be a CCIE? [7:28911]

Just keep in mind that a Cert is a Cert.  In two years it will expire
and
you will have to recert to keep current.

A certification is basically to validate your experience, whether it was
acquired in the lab, school, or in a production network.  All of this
will
come into play when you apply for a job or ask for a raise.

You have to decide if you are going for the cert because of personal
reasons
(like myself), or if you are looking for an increase in pay.  If it is
for
the later, and you expect to stay at the same job, make it known to your
employers on your intentions and see what they are willing to do in
terms of
compensation/support. Then you can make your own decision whether or not
to
pursue this cert.

If you plan to leave your organization in search of vast riches you may
be
in for a rude awakening.  Check out Dice, Monster, Headhunter, and all
of
the rest of job classifieds.  Determine if even after you get the CCIE
cert
if the location, pay, other job specifics to see if with the CCIE you
will
even have the necessary work experience to meet those job
qualifications. 
For about 90 percent of the jobs that require a CCIE, they will expect
you
to also work on higher end switches/routers not to mention
SOLARIS/NT/LINUX/Openview/Ciscowork and the firewalls all of which you
will
not have if you just played around with 6 low end routers/switches to
prepare for the CCIE.

If you are like most people, it will take around 6-18 months to get the
CCIE
if you are just starting.  What will the market be like in 6 to 18
months?
My CCIE tracking (from newsgroups) has come up with approximately 4-5
CCIEs
are being produced every day worldwide.  So by the time you get your
CCIE;
180 - 540 more CCIEs of which about half of them are in the US would
have
been certified.  The salary offers has also been dropping on almost a
monthly basis.

Since I originally got my CCIE because of personal reasons, the lowering
of
pay does not bother me. It may however affect others.

Good luck on your efforts, what ever it maybe.

Always remember that the CCIE is not an end, it is just a marker along
your
way to the continous process of acquiring knowledge.

Stanford




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