Can you post configs from both routers plus the output of "show 
isdn stat" and show dialer from both?

Also, have you tried debugging isdn q921 and q931?  How about 
debugging the dialer? 

John


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---- On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, McHugh Randy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> In the BRS book it says there are only 5 minumum commands to 
get ISDN up
> and
> running and that is
> 2 global
> isdn switch-type basic-5ess
> and 
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
> 
> and
>  
> 3 interface
> 
> dialer-group 1
> dialer string 2001
> ip add 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
> 
> I am having a hard time getting 2 routers with a bri's to 
talk accross
> an
> isdn switch with just those commands. Do I NEED to set the 
encapsulation
> to
> be ppp instead of the default hdlc? Do I NEED to set 
authentication
> either
> pap or chap with username password pairs for each routers?  
Do I NEED to
> make a map statment mapping het maping the ip of the local 
routers IP to
> the
> remote routers ISDN # to call?
> Thanks in advance !
> Randy
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