Scott,
I have been reading many of the troubleshooting articles about ISIS at the
Cisco web site and every WAN scenario indeed involves a fully meshed
multipoint frame relay configuration or a p-t-p subinterface setup. What I'm
trying to do is not going to work at all. I thank you for your
replies.Sometimes I have to be hit over the head before I understand
something correctly.

--
James Haynes
Network Architect
Cendant IT
A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,
CQS-SNA/IPSS

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> James,
>
> I notice that you are using the same DLCI (104) between the spokes as the
> one you use to get to the hub.  Is this right?  I was under the impression
> that the non-NBMA support aspect of ISIS required either p-t-p
subinterfaces
> or fully meshed mulipoint.
>
> Scott
>
> James Haynes wrote:
> >
> > Yes, the spoke routers frame-relay map statements all contain
> > the broadcast
> > keyword as well. However, the routes are still not propagating.
> > If I use the
> > "show isis topology" command on the spoke routers I can see the
> > other spoke
> > router and the correct metric to it, but not the next hop,
> > interface, or
> > DLCI it needs to take to get there.
> >
> > --
> > James Haynes
> > Network Architect
> > Cendant IT
> > A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,
> > CQS-SNA/IPSS
> >
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> > > James,
> > >
> > > OK, you tried the map statements with the broadcast keyword
> > on the hub.
> > Did
> > > you add the broadcast keyword on the map statements between
> > the spoke
> > sites?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > James Haynes wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Scott,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help. I had already tried the frame-relay
> > map
> > > > commands with
> > > > the broadcast ending. It didn't seem to work then either :(
> > > > You are correct in that on a multi-access LAN all the
> > routers
> > > > have to see
> > > > each other and these two spoke routers are definitely not.
> > The
> > > > DIS is not
> > > > quite the same as the DR in OSPF and advertises a pseudonode
> > > > (the network)
> > > > to all attached routers. Thanks for your help I'm going to
> > keep
> > > > trying.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > James Haynes
> > > > Network Architect
> > > > Cendant IT
> > > > A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,
> > > > CQS-SNA/IPSS
> > > >
> > > > ""s vermill""  wrote in message
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> > > > > James,
> > > > >
> > > > > I hate to give such a poorly researched answer, but I did
> > > > quite a bit of
> > > > > experimenting with ISIS a few months back.  I don't have
> > time
> > > > to verify
> > > > this
> > > > > for sure right now, but here is what I remember:
> > > > >
> > > > > ISIS knows nothing of NBMA.  It only know serial
> > > > point-to-point and
> > > > > multi-access LANs.  So I would replace those
> > interface-dlci
> > > > statements on
> > > > > your hub with frame-relay map ip statements and I would
> > also
> > > > add the
> > > > > broadcast keyword to EVERYTHING.  I don't remember all of
> > the
> > > > nuances of
> > > > DIS
> > > > > vs. DR, but I do seem to recall that in a broadcast LAN
> > > > environment, all
> > > > > routers need to see one another.  I am fairly sure that
> > there
> > > > are subtle
> > > > but
> > > > > important differences in the way an ISIS LAN and an OSPF
> > LAN
> > > > behave.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this doesn't work, I'll make some time to try to
> > refresh
> > > > my memory.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > James Haynes wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been working on a home lab scenario involving ISIS
> > and
> > > > > > it's been
> > > > > > driving me crazy. The behavior appears to be a split
> > > > horizion
> > > > > > issue even
> > > > > > though ISIS(like OSPF) is a link state protocol and
> > > > shouldn't
> > > > > > have a problem
> > > > > > with this. The scenario involves a hub router R4 and two
> > > > spoke
> > > > > > routers
> > > > > > r2,r3. R4 is connected via a multipoint sub-interface
> > to the
> > > > > > physical frame
> > > > > > relay interfaces on r2 and r3. There a various routers
> > > > behind
> > > > > > both of the
> > > > > > spoke routers and the hub router. R4 sees all routes on
> > the
> > > > > > network as do
> > > > > > the routers located behind R4. R2 see's all routes on
> > the
> > > > > > network except
> > > > > > those behind r3 and r3 sees all routes except for those
> > > > behind
> > > > > > r2. In this
> > > > > > setup ISIS sends out multicasted LAN hellos that are
> > picked
> > > > up
> > > > > > by other
> > > > > > routers.
> > > > > > I thought perhaps that like the OSPF neighbor command
> > that
> > > > I've
> > > > > > used in hub
> > > > > > and spoke setup's I could use the clns is-neighbor
> > interface
> > > > > > command, but
> > > > > > all I get are messages saying you cannot put static IS
> > or ES
> > > > > > mappings on a
> > > > > > Frame Relay interface. Anyway, what follows are the
> > relevant
> > > > > > config's. I was
> > > > > > hoping someone may spot something I haven't seen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R4#
> > > > > >
> > > > > > interface Serial0.2 multipoint
> > > > > >  ip address 10.10.234.4 255.255.255.240
> > > > > >  no ip directed-broadcast
> > > > > >  ip router isis 0
> > > > > >  no ip split-horizon
> > > > > >  clns router isis 0
> > > > > >  isis priority 127
> > > > > >  frame-relay map clns 102 broadcast
> > > > > >  frame-relay map clns 103 broadcast
> > > > > >  frame-relay interface-dlci 102
> > > > > >  frame-relay interface-dlci 103
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > router isis 0
> > > > > >  net 49.0000.0000.0000.0004.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > r2#
> > > > > >
> > > > > > interface Serial1/0
> > > > > >  ip address 10.10.234.2 255.255.255.240
> > > > > >  ip router isis 0
> > > > > >  encapsulation frame-relay
> > > > > >  clns router isis 0
> > > > > >  frame-relay map clns 104 broadcast
> > > > > >  frame-relay map ip 10.10.234.3 104
> > > > > >  frame-relay map ip 10.10.234.4 104 broadcast
> > > > > >
> > > > > > router isis 0
> > > > > >  net 49.0000.0000.0000.0002.00
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > r3#
> > > > > >
> > > > > > interface Serial1/0
> > > > > >  ip address 10.10.234.3 255.255.255.240
> > > > > >  ip router isis 0
> > > > > >  encapsulation frame-relay
> > > > > >  clns router isis 0
> > > > > >  frame-relay map clns 104 broadcast
> > > > > >  frame-relay map ip 10.10.234.2 104
> > > > > >  frame-relay map ip 10.10.234.4 104 broadcast
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > router isis 0
> > > > > >  net 49.0000.0000.0000.0003.00
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > James Haynes
> > > > > > Network Architect
> > > > > > Cendant IT
> > > > > > A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,
> > > > > > CQS-SNA/IPSS




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