I am still having nightmares about the 509's - they were nasty. However,
with the portfast on my 3548 interfaces, I have not had any problems with
the about 40 Dell's we have with 3C905B's.

The only big problem I have with Dell computers (but I have that with some
other ones too), are the combination of 98 2nd ed., McAfee Virus Scan and
Novell NW Client. That makes about half of them go into ORBIT mode with
shutting down, even after following the MS Knowledgebase steps to prevent
this. However, that has absolutely nothing to do with Cisco Studies, so
forget about that again...

Ole

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-----Original Message-----
From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2924XL and Blue Screen of Death: Resolved [7:33203]


I meant 3c905b's are nice.  I think the 509's are old ISA cards.
""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
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> Those DELL's with the 3com nic's have so many problems!  There's a thread
> over in comp.dcom.sys.cisco with someone else having problems with the
same
> PC's and NIC's.
>
> Usually the 3c509's are OK.  I remember the 3C509B's as being rock-solid.
> How fast are the PC's booting to beat portfast?  Or are the NIC's some
sort
> of boot on lan client, where the NIC get's taken over before the OS even
> loads.  Maybe someone can disable the wake on lan feature if those DELL's
> have it, because otherwise I can't imagine a NIC caring about network
> connectivity before the OS kernel wakes up and takes over the NIC anyways.
>
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > Well, sort of resolved.  This turned out to be a known issue with Dell
> > machines, specifically machines using a 3COM 3C905C NIC.  They expect
> > the network to be available almost immediately upon bootup and can't
> > handle the delay caused by spanning tree.  In some cases, even portfast
> > did not reduce the time sufficiently.
> >
> > So, watch out for those 3COM NICs!
> >
> > John




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