I'll make it easy on you.  :-)  Take a look at this output:

RNRTH#sho run int s0/0
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 244 bytes
!
interface Serial0/0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 no ip mroute-cache
 tx-ring-limit 14
 tx-queue-limit 14
 no fair-queue
 frame-relay traffic-shaping
end

RNRTH#sho int s0/0
Serial0/0 is up, line protocol is up 
  Hardware is PowerQUICC Serial
  Backup interface Async65, failure delay 10 sec, secondary disable
delay 60 sec,
  kickin load not set, kickout load not set
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec, 
     reliability 255/255, txload 21/255, rxload 22/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  25752, LMI stat recvd 25752, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI
up
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 179841/0, interface
broadcasts 166963
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 2d23h
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 851 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 137000 bits/sec, 124 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 133000 bits/sec, 125 packets/sec
     21463756 packets input, 2759646235 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
     21591969 packets output, 2815036977 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
     0 carrier transitions
     DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=up

RNRTH#


This is with 12.2(3) code, as I mentioned before.  During testing, if I
turned on FRF, the Queueing strategy would change to dual FIFO.  Without
FRF, it remains as a single FIFO queue.

John

>>> "Steven A. Ridder"  1/28/02 3:23:32 PM
>>>
I had my weekly meeting with Cisco, and according to them, it does. 
Now I'm
going to have to do it for myself to see.  I'll let you know.
""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> I don't think this is entirely true, but it might depend on the
software
> release.  We're using 12.2(3) and you definitely have to turn on FRF
to
> get the dual FIFO queue; FRTS alone doesn't do it.  We have several
> routers using FRTS with no fragmentation and they only have a single
> FIFO queue.  When I did some testing with this, adding FRF created
the
> dual FIFO queue but then our voice calls sounded worse, even though
we
> weren't actually fragmenting packets!
>
> Weird.  Oh well, we've canned our VoIP project anyway.  At the
moment
> it just isn't feasible, and no, it doesn't have a feasible
successor,
> either.  :-)
>
> John
>
> >>> "Steven A. Ridder"  1/28/02 2:20:01 PM
> >>>
> Fragmenting above a serialization problematic size doesn't create
the
> dual-FIFO queue as certain CCO pages say.  It's the frame-relay
> traffic-shaping command that does.
> ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It seems way off.  You don't frag a packet above the MTU.  As for
> the
> subnet
> > mask as an IP, I can't imagine the router taking it.  Why can't he
> put the
> > real IP in there?  It's been a while since I've seen a customer do
> FRF.11
> C,
> > though.  I'd do his config right and also add the map classes to
> both
> > routers.  Furthermore, unless he has about 60 or so calls going
> across,
> I'd
> > reduce the reserved BW from 720K to a more reasonable number.
> >
> >
> > ""Erich Kuehn""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I have a customer that we provide frame-relay service to. He is
> trying
> to
> > do
> > > VoIP over Frame-Relay, while I have quite a bit of experience
with
> IP
> and
> > > Frame-Relay, once you put voice into it I get lost.
> > >
> > > His problem is that if his circuit goes down at location A, Once
> Loc B
> > comes
> > > back up (to my frame-relay switch) Loc A will not come back up.
The
> only
> > way
> > > to force Loc A back up is to shut the interface on the
frame-switch
> to
> > which
> > > Loc A connect and then open it back up. Strange I know. He is
> running
> > > similar routers at both locations (3660's on 12.2xt code) and
the
> config
> > are
> > > nearly identical. With exception
> > >
> > > At Loc B under the serial subinterface he has
> > >
> > > frame-relay inte.5 255.255.255.252
> > >
> > > Never seen this can anyone explain???
> > >
> > > He also has this in his config at both Loc A and B
> > >
> > > Map-class Frame-relay VoIP_FR
> > >  frame-relay fragment 1600
> > >  frame-relay ip rtp priotity 16384 16383 720
> > >  no frame-relay adaptive-shaping
> > >  frame-relay fair-queue
> > >
> > > At Loc A he makes reference to the map-class under the serial
subif
> at
> Loc
> > B
> > > he does not.
> > >
> > > Anyone with some input??
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Erich Kuehn
> > > Network Engineer
> > > Backbone Communications




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