Drop the 'N', give them a red t-shirt and send them off to Cuba!

""dk""  wrote in message
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> Save yourself  all the expense of training exams books etc....just get
> convicted
> Cisco should bring in a new cert  CCCNP cisco certified convict network
pro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven A. Ridder"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: MAJOR OT: Free CCNPtraining for convicts [7:34039]
>
>
> > Perhaps they should start with the CCNA????
> >
> > ""steve skinner""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > guys,
> > >
> > > my boss has just told me that cisco are trailing a few prisons where
> they
> > > are offering free CCNP training to convicts....
> > >
> > > man does that just bite the buscuit.....
> > >
> > > i worked long and hard to pay for my exams.....get some work
experience
> > > ....and at my expence (bieng a tax payer)i am funding a convict to
learn
> > > about cisco.....
> > >
> > > i know about re-abilitation.....but it is just a bit sick that i as an
> > > individual,could
> > >
> > > a) been robbed by this man ... my house is trashed and my insurence
goes
> > up
> > > (i pay )
> > > b) funding him in prison to learn Cisco (i pay)
> > > c) comes out of prison and de-vaules a cert becuse he has no
experience
> (i
> > > pay)
> > >
> > >
> > > does cisco want to have a "useless" cert system....(except ofcourse
the
> > > CCIE)....because the more people who BLANTENTLY DONT have any
experience
> > > witht these certs ...the less they mean...
> > >
> > >
> > > i`m  sorry to rant....but sometimes i wish company`s would consider
> there
> > > future..
> > >
> > > FACT (from Cisco) there will always be more jobs for NA/NP than IE`s
> > >
> > > 1)i get exams to be employable...
> > > 2)in order to get these exams i push the company`s kit ..
> > >
> > > i have recently installed some 4000`s over another companies kit,even
> > > thought the other kit is more than capable of doing the job..because i
> get
> > a
> > > side benefit of learning about the equipment and increasing my CV
value
> > > ....
> > >
> > > 3)if i am working at a company and i dont want a cisco cert because it
> is
> > > worthless..why would i push that companies products..
> > >
> > > i would simply push another company`s products to get my certs in the
> > there
> > > equipment ,to keep my employability....
> > >
> > > 4) cisco dont sell as much equipment ....
> > > 5) certs become even more worthless..
> > > 6) cisco sells even less equipment ....as no-one is trained anymore
> > > 7) cisco becomes Novell....(my appologies to all novell staff)...
> > >
> > > a little for-thought is all that required...
> > >
> > > as my boss says...
> > >
> > > " one of my main reson for buying kit is the amount of tech staff
> > availible
> > > to install/fix the kit...if there`s no staff there no kit"
> > >
> > > in a job market that is already depressed that last thing that is
needed
> > is
> > > a flood of Certified but unexperienced people on the market..
> > >
> > > the it industry is like no other ,in that fact that we have to
> CONSTANTLY
> > > update our skills ...that takes time,money and personal
> > > sacrfise....something i dont think cisco is at all concernd with...
> > >
> > > ahh welll.....
> > >
> > > no chance of a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" list starting any time
soon...??
> > >
> > > Sorry for the downer....
> > >
> > > steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
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