Oh I see, you subscribe to the school that thinks denying ex-convicts the basic skill sets to survive and perhaps even thrive in society will somehow benefit all of us. Yes, let's keep the downtrodden even further below the higher classes! Only the already fortunate may benefit from white collar jobs! Gee I wonder what happens when convicts finish their jail tail and re-enter society without any means to support themselves... more crime, ya think?
But I guess you think locking people up in cages is tax money well spent, right? Some of the elitism on this list is revolting. - Sean -----Original Message----- From: Puckette, Larry (TIFPC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MAJOR OT: Free CCNPtraining for convicts [7:34039] Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen anybody mention the character reputation degradation that is sure to follow when these convicts populate our ranks after their release. Looks like just another feel good image enhancement project without considering long term effects to me. Cisco should keep that in mind and realize that there are more people with proven character strengths involved in the Cisco ranks now than the field will ever need and not throw a bunch of rotten apples in to the mix. Just my 2 cents worth, hope it's just a urban legend.... Larry Puckette Network Analyst CCNA,MCP,LANCP Temple Inland [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512/434-1838 -----Original Message----- From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MAJOR OT: Free CCNPtraining for convicts [7:34039] Cool... well I feel a little better now about my sentencing next week. Do you know if I'll have newsgroup access? ""steve skinner"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > guys, > > my boss has just told me that cisco are trailing a few prisons where they > are offering free CCNP training to convicts.... > > man does that just bite the buscuit..... > > i worked long and hard to pay for my exams.....get some work experience > ....and at my expence (bieng a tax payer)i am funding a convict to learn > about cisco..... > > i know about re-abilitation.....but it is just a bit sick that i as an > individual,could > > a) been robbed by this man ... my house is trashed and my insurence goes up > (i pay ) > b) funding him in prison to learn Cisco (i pay) > c) comes out of prison and de-vaules a cert becuse he has no experience (i > pay) > > > does cisco want to have a "useless" cert system....(except ofcourse the > CCIE)....because the more people who BLANTENTLY DONT have any experience > witht these certs ...the less they mean... > > > i`m sorry to rant....but sometimes i wish company`s would consider there > future.. > > FACT (from Cisco) there will always be more jobs for NA/NP than IE`s > > 1)i get exams to be employable... > 2)in order to get these exams i push the company`s kit .. > > i have recently installed some 4000`s over another companies kit,even > thought the other kit is more than capable of doing the job..because i get a > side benefit of learning about the equipment and increasing my CV value > .... > > 3)if i am working at a company and i dont want a cisco cert because it is > worthless..why would i push that companies products.. > > i would simply push another company`s products to get my certs in the there > equipment ,to keep my employability.... > > 4) cisco dont sell as much equipment .... > 5) certs become even more worthless.. > 6) cisco sells even less equipment ....as no-one is trained anymore > 7) cisco becomes Novell....(my appologies to all novell staff)... > > a little for-thought is all that required... > > as my boss says... > > " one of my main reson for buying kit is the amount of tech staff availible > to install/fix the kit...if there`s no staff there no kit" > > in a job market that is already depressed that last thing that is needed is > a flood of Certified but unexperienced people on the market.. > > the it industry is like no other ,in that fact that we have to CONSTANTLY > update our skills ...that takes time,money and personal > sacrfise....something i dont think cisco is at all concernd with... > > ahh welll..... > > no chance of a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" list starting any time soon...?? > > Sorry for the downer.... > > steve > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34086&t=34039 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
