Hi Priscilla,
        Thank you very much for the tips. Unfortunately, they did not work.
The Macintoshes are actually connected to a hub. Any other ideas.

Thank you.
Joe Quezada

-----Original Message-----
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:24 PM
To: Quezada, Jose L; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Appletalk Help [7:34079]


Are the AppleTalk devices on a switch? This smells like a portfast problem. 
Enable portfast on the switch ports, and I suspect the problem will go away.

I think that what's happening is that when the newly booted AppleTalk 
stations send their ZIPGetNetInfo packet to find out the actual network 
number(s) and zone(s) for the segment, the switch is not yet forwarding 
their packets. So they don't get through to the router. This causes the 
stations to think they are on a non-routed network and to stay with their 
startup network number in the 65,280-65,534 range.

Later the stations send other broadcasts and the router sees them and adds 
them to its ARP cache.

As you may know already, a switch can take a couple minutes to start 
forwarding traffic as it works on pruning the topology into a spanning 
tree. New Macintoshes boot way faster than this and can be done with their 
initialization by the time the switch decides to forward their traffic. The 
solution is to configure portfast (or the set port host macro on high-end 
switches). These configurations cause the switch to start forwarding 
traffic immediately.

HTH

Priscilla


At 12:24 PM 2/1/02, Quezada, Jose L wrote:
>Hello all,
>         Please excuse my ignorance with Appletalk. We currently have a
>problem with some nodes running Appletalk. In the apple arp table of our
>router, they show up with an address such as  65280.128. My understanding
is
>that when a node boots up, it is assigned a temporary network address from
>the range of 65280 to 65534. The router will then reply with a valid cable
>range. The fact that this network address shows up in the arp table tells
me
>that the router can see the node. If that is the case, what can I check to
>find out why the router is not sending the valid cable range. We have other
>nodes on the same network which are working correctly. We have also move
the
>problem nodes to another network and they work properly. What else can I
>check? What tests can I do?
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Joe Quezada
>Electronic Data Systems
>48 Walter Jones Blvd.
>El Paso, TX 79906
>Phone: 915.783.7159 (8.955)
>E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.priscilla.com




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