If you only have 2 routers, then you need to disable keepalives on both 
sides - #no keepalive.
One side has to provided the clocking, the DCE side with # clock rate 64000
Encap has to be frame-relay, PPP won't work as this is a frame circuit not a 
point-to-point.
Then do a #frame-relay map ip   on both sides.
This will work.
Regards.



>From: "Mixa" 
>Reply-To: "Mixa" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]
>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:42:27 -0500
>
>hello,
>
>I have a question:
>
>I'm setting up a simulation lab for my CCNA. I have 2 routers, Cisco2501,
>2503. I'm setting up frame-relay on both of the serial one but for some
>reason, the 2 routers don't talk. I tried to encap ppp but here is an error
>message. I know i need a DTE and a DCE for frame to work.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Serial1 is up, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is HD64570
>   Internet address is 200.0.0.2/24
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec,
>      reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set
>   Keepalive set (10 sec)
>   LMI enq sent  9488, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
>   LMI enq recvd 14232, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
>   LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
>   FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
>   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 
>0
>   Last input 00:00:08, output 00:00:08, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1d02h
>   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
>   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
>   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
>      Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max total)
>      Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
>      Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>      14232 packets input, 186598 bytes, 0 no buffer
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