Thanks all. That's interesting... now i remember that i printed out that
article (don't know where it is) that Jensen put in for me. Thanks all. I'll
give it a try.

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> If you only have 2 routers, then you need to disable keepalives on both
> sides - #no keepalive.
> One side has to provided the clocking, the DCE side with # clock rate
64000
> Encap has to be frame-relay, PPP won't work as this is a frame circuit not
a
> point-to-point.
> Then do a #frame-relay map ip   on both sides.
> This will work.
> Regards.
>
>
>
> >From: "Mixa"
> >Reply-To: "Mixa"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]
> >Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:42:27 -0500
> >
> >hello,
> >
> >I have a question:
> >
> >I'm setting up a simulation lab for my CCNA. I have 2 routers, Cisco2501,
> >2503. I'm setting up frame-relay on both of the serial one but for some
> >reason, the 2 routers don't talk. I tried to encap ppp but here is an
error
> >message. I know i need a DTE and a DCE for frame to work.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Serial1 is up, line protocol is down
> >   Hardware is HD64570
> >   Internet address is 200.0.0.2/24
> >   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec,
> >      reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
> >   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set
> >   Keepalive set (10 sec)
> >   LMI enq sent  9488, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
> >   LMI enq recvd 14232, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
> >   LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
> >   FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
> >   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface
broadcasts
> >0
> >   Last input 00:00:08, output 00:00:08, output hang never
> >   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1d02h
> >   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
> >   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
> >   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
> >      Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max total)
> >      Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
> >      Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
> >   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> >   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> >      14232 packets input, 186598 bytes, 0 no buffer
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