The full circle: We now apparently check security clearance so carefully that fear of compromising the clearance indeed becomes more of a threat than knowing someone who once was in a room where a known commie breathed the air.
And inhaled. Very best, G. VP OGC > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 1:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Secret Clearance? [7:4152] > > > IT took me 6 months to get mine and I almost didn't get it > because a friend > in high school got busted sometime after graduation for > dealing drugs... And > even when I did get it, it was interim and took another 4 > months before it > was perm. > > -Patrick > > I think the Navy estimates 50,000 smackers per investigation.... > > >>> "Logan, Harold" 02/14/02 01:03PM >>> > I disagree. In order to get a clearance, not only do you have to make > the right choices, but all of your past and present friends, roomates, > and coworkers need to make the right choices too. Add to that, it only > takes one person bad-mouthing you to delay or even end your > investigation... ask yourself this, is there at least one person out > there who would lie about you in order to make your life difficult? > > It's a very subjective process, and one that I don't care to > go through > again. If you have a clearance, be glad that you do. > > Hal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Buehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Secret Clearance? [7:4152] > > > You were not "Lucky" that you had nothing in your background. > You made > the > right choices. People who make the wrong choices pay for it > their whole > life. It is called Character. > > > ""William Gragido"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Well, since this is obviously a never ending thread I'll add my 2 > cents. > I > > have a Top Secret SCI that is still valid from my active duty period > in > the > > USMC. In regards to joining the service just to get a > clearance, I'd > say > > thats some of the most low brow thinking that I've ever > heard. There > are > no > > guarantees that you'll get one. It all depends on the investigation > and > > what they unearth, so don't be fooled into thinking that simply by > selecting > > an MOS that requires a clearance you'll automatically qualify. Its > not > the > > case. I saw Marines go through schools only to be turned down for > > clearances. I was lucky and had nothing in my background that would > > prohibit my from obtaining one, but again, it all depends on what > one's > > civilian life is compromised of that helps dictates whehter or not a > person > > rates one. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > John Faubion > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Secret Clearance? [7:4152] > > > > > > Ohh that's a good idea, then when you get orders to Bosnia, Somalia, > Kuwait, > > or Afghanistan, you can be like the whiners of Desert Storm > that cried > about > > joining to get an education, not to go to war. Only this > time it will > be > > about getting a security clearance instead of going to war! > > > > While you can get a security clearance in the military, it is not > valid > > after leaving the military unless it is documented > correctly. However > the > > reinstatement cost can be drastically reduced since the previous leg > work > > has already been done. > > > > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven A. Ridder" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:52 PM > > Subject: Re: Secret Clearance? [7:4152] > > > > > > > 80K!!! You could always do what I did and join the Army. If you > pick a > > > good MOS, you'll get a secret clearance for free while you are in > Basic > or > > > AIT. Some jobs I'm sure will give you a top secret if needed. I > bet > > just > > > joining the reserves would get you a secret if the MOS called for > it. > > > ""Julian Eccli"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > A secret clearance can cost somewhere between $50K-$80K > to get all > the > > > > proper paper work and verifications done, hence why > they want you > to > > have > > > it > > > > already :) > > > > > > > > > > > > -Julian > > > > > > > > ""Patrick Ramsey"" wrote in message > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > not to mention that if they say it is required they > probably do > not > > want > > > > to > > > > > pay the $$$ to have it done...hence the "required" portion of > the > job > > > > > description. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> "Craig Columbus" 02/09/02 15:38 PM >>> > > > > > Check the archives of the list. This has been discussed many, > many > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > At 11:04 AM 2/9/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >So how does one gain Secret Clearance? > > > > > >--- Jeff D wrote: > > > > > > > The contractor has no say in it. If the government > > > > > > > says you need a clearance > > > > > > > to enter the building, then you have to have one, > > > > > > > period. Why waste your > > > > > > > time if you don't? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > > > > this Clearance thing is kind of funny. > > > > > > > > I think they should screen someone who is > > > > > > > qulaified for the position even > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > they dont have the Clearance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > > >Paul M. 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