Chuck, Well said. I believe you are your own business and should treat yourself as such. The perfect time to increase your value (if you can afford it) is during a slow market. You will be able to ride the wave when things do turn around.
-- James Haynes Network Architect Cendant IT A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP, CQS-SNA/IPSS ""Chuck"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Take a lesson from the financial markets. Call this an investment in the > future. The best time to buy stocks is when they are low. ( > duhhhhhh!!!!!!!! ) > > The best time to educate and improve yourself is when the market is slow. > Now is the time to invest in yourself - training, experience, whatever you > can get. > > the market is starting to come back. it's hard to tell, but this is because > jobs are a trailing indicator. Companies will delay new hiring until they > are certain the market is recovering. The economy is indeed recovering as we > speak, according to the leading indicators. This will not be reflected in > the current job market. We may not see the job market improve for several > more months. But I can tell you, I'm seeing a lot more in terms of customer > activity than I was seeing six months ago. Or three months ago, for that > matter. the biggies are VoIP and VPN, but there is a good share of > infrastructure upgrade. Without the idiots from defunct places like M1 > mucking up the dialogue, customers are getting better advice IMHO, and are > seeing the value of investing now. > > I suspect the real question here is whether or not there is value to being a > CCIE as opposed to some other certification, or expertise in networking in > general. We could debate this point until doomsday and never come up with a > definitive conclusion. IMHO the skills acquired during the CCIE Lab prep > process are valuable. The cert itself may or may not be of value to a > particular employer. > > My own opinion - always invest in yourself. Invest in the skills that will > keep you challenged and keep you employed. > > Chuck > > > ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I'm curious about the feelings others have toward this sort of class, > > especially considering the current job market. A couple of years ago if > > you had CCIE on your resume you were almost sure to get an outrageous > > salary with bonues and other killer benefits. This more than offset the > > cost of taking these sorts of classes. > > > > In the current market, I've heard that if you have a job position that > > requires a CCIE you'll get ten applications! With the HUGE numbers of > > unemployed engineers--of course, depending on where you live--it is no > > longer a 'sure thing' that you'll even be able to find a job, let alone > > get those huge salaries that made everyone salivate. > > > > So, if you had to pay for something like this out of your own pocket, > > do you think it's worth it? Do you think a one-week class that costs > > over $4,000 will pay off more in the long run than spending a fraction > > of that on a few more routers and some books and then putting in an > > extra month or two of practice and study? > > > > Here in Denver the market REALLY sucks right now. Even if I pass the > > lab the chances of me moving to a different company--and therefore > > getting a better salary--are slim to none and Slim might have just left > > town. > > > > I guess what I'm getting at is this: do you think these types of > > companies are pricing themselves right out of the market based on demand > > figures from a couple of years ago? Or, do they seem to be operating on > > the premise that as long as there are people willing to pay exorbitant > > prices, they'll charge sky-high prices. > > > > What are your thoughts? > > > > John > > > > > > > > >>> "Rob Webber" 2/26/02 10:21:23 AM >>> > > Now called "RS-NMC-1 (Routing and Switching Net Master Class)" > > > > Rob. > > > > ""Will K."" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Does anyone know where information about this class can be found? > > Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36526&t=36501 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
