If you do ip summary-address rip n.n.n.n m.m.m.m on an interface, this will
work as CIDR.

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RFC 1149 Compliant.


""Andrew Cook""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> I duplicated this effect.  It seems the whole problem lies with RIP
network
> statements.  Although RIPv2 itself can carry classless info, the network
> statement to turn RIP on for an interface is classful.  Until Cisco allows
> the inclusion of netmask info in the network statement as they do for
other
> routing protocols, I would guess that redistribution is the only way to
make
> this work - and I'd wager that they aren't really devoting a lot of
> development time to RIP anymore!
> Incidentally, I created a supernet on a loopback with a /22 and then tried
> putting all 4 class Cs into RIP as networks to see if that would magically
> fix it - it did not.
> Can anyone confirm RIPv2 operation on other vendor equipment?  Does anyone
> allow a CIDR netblock as a native RIP interface without redistribution?
>
> PS - as to the need for RIPv2 on a modern network, I am still forced to
use
> it in many cases for MPLS/VPN.  The only routing choices to a CE router
are
> static, RIPv2, BGP, and OSPF.  OSPF is limited because each instance uses
up
> one protocol descriptor block (PDB), of which you can only have 32.
Static
> is easy for small customers, but larger ones will almost certainly require
> dynamic routing.  That leaves us the choice of BGP or RIPv2.  It all
depends
> on whether the end user is comfortable using BGP.  Almost everyone has set
> up RIP before, so it seems to be the catchall.
>
> Andrew Cook
>
> ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > well, to continue to beat this dead horse ( like anyone cares about
RIPv2
> > CIDR anyway )
> >
> > Gateway of last resort is not set
> >
> >      172.17.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > C       172.17.1.0 is directly connected, TokenRing0
> >      173.4.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > C       173.4.57.0 is directly connected, Loopback0
> >      161.52.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > R       161.52.1.0 [120/1] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:24, Virtual-Access1
> >      132.31.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
> > C       132.31.99.8/32 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
> > C       132.31.99.0/24 is directly connected, Virtual-Access1
> > C    192.168.0.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0
> > C    192.168.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1
> > C    200.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, Loopback101
> > R    201.0.0.0/15 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:11, Virtual-Access1
> > R    96.0.0.0/4 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
> > R    203.0.0.0/8 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
> > R    129.0.0.0/12 [120/5] via 132.31.99.8, 00:00:00, Virtual-Access1
> > C    181.48.0.0/13 is directly connected, Loopback201
> > R7#
> >
> > note all the CIDR routes in the routing table, all learned via RIP.
> >
> > How?
> >
> > interface Loopback101
> >  ip address 201.0.0.1 255.254.0.0
> > !
> > interface Loopback1001
> >  ip address 203.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
> > !
> > interface Loopback1002
> >  ip address 129.1.1.1 255.240.0.0
> > !
> > interface Loopback1003
> >  ip address 100.1.1.1 240.0.0.0
> > !
> > router rip
> >  version 2
> >  redistribute connected metric 5
> >  network 132.31.0.0
> >  network 161.52.0.0
> >  network 201.0.0.0
> >  no auto-summary
> >
> > you apparently do have to redistribute the CIDR routes into RIPv2. Silly
> me.
> > Why wouldn't that be obvious?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > kinda in answer to your private message:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
> > > /ipcprt2/1cdrip.htm
> > > watch the wrap
> > >
> > > according to this, Cisco's implementation of Ripv2 does indeed support
> > CIDR
> > >
> > > On the other hand, getting this to work appears to be problematic. A
> check
> > > of Doyle shows no CIDR example for Ripv2 A look though Large Scale IP
> > > Network Solutions yields this interesting sentence: "RIPV2 is able to
> > > support classless interdomain routes. It can propagate a classless
route
> > > through redistribution"
> > >
> > > I can't get a damn CIDR route to show up in the RIPv2 table no matter
> how
> > > many hokey pokies I do.
> > >
> > > At this point I'm going to assume you have tried RipV2 and have had
the
> > same
> > > frustration I just had - seeing no CIDR routes. This calls for a bit
> more
> > > research.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > > I think you're trying to outsmart yourself. Can't be done!!! ;->
> > > >
> > > > I showed you in my private reply the result of the EIGRP test I set
> up.
> > > The
> > > > answer was "no problem"
> > > >
> > > > I also know from long lab rat experience that it is not a problem
with
> > > OSPF.
> > > >
> > > > I have not tried with either IS-IS or Ripv2, but again, why not?
> > > >
> > > > there may be issues with older IOS code. Some vendor older models
may
> > not
> > > > support it. But I have no reason based on my experience, to believe
> that
> > > it
> > > > is an issue with current IOS code.
> > > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ""Pierre-Alex Guanel""  wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > > > > The statement that provoked my question is from RFC 1721. They say
> > > > >
> > > > > "Subnet masks are also necessary for implementation of "classless"
> > > > > addressing, as the CIDR work proposes"
> > > > >
> > > > > thus the question "if a routing protocol supports subnet mask does
> > that
> > > > > automatically mean that it can do CIDR?
> > > > >
> > > > > ( I think the answer is no because CIDR means that you could have
> > masks
> > > > > stilling bits from the newtork ID and the router may not like this
> > ....
> > > I
> > > > > also think that historically subnetting and Variable Length subnet
> > > masking
> > > > > came before CIDR. But those are just speculations. I don't have
> > examples
> > > /
> > > > > references to support my arguments and I would like to know if I
am
> > > > correct.)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre-Alex




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