The question was why was BGP required for MPLS, 
The explanation provided only stated the functionality that MP-IBGP
provides.
Not if you should use or not. 
With the new additions to the IOS, MPLS can now run down on the CE (not full
functionality) allowing OSPF to pass VRF information up to the PE.

Ken Sexton
Data Network Engineering 
ICG Communications
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Why we need BGP to establish MPLS? [7:39014]


I think you really need to mention that you are working on describing 
RFC2547bis which happens to use MPLS as a forwarding mechanism.  The 
original question asked why BGP was required for MPLS for which the correct 
answer is that it isn't.

At 11:05 AM 3/21/2002 -0500, Sexton, Ken wrote:
>MP-iBGP (Multi-Protocol iBGP) is used because it has community extensions
>inherent to the routing protocol, to pass VPN related information among the
>PE (Provider Edge) routers. Using Extended Communities VPN related
>information such as, Route Target (RT), Site of Origin (for dual home CEs)
>as well as VPNv4 information can be passed among iBGP peers. Because this
is
>an iBGP environment, all PEs will receive route updates from everyone else.
>(You can use route reflectors to lessen the peer statements). The iBGP
>environment requires that all PEs be in sync (global table). The import
>statements within the VRF determine which routes to take out of the BGP
>global table and install into the VRF routing table. The export statements
>indicate which VRF routes will be exported to your iBGP peers.
>
>You can use an underlying IGP to establish your peers (nothing different
>than dealing with normal iBGP). OSPF and IS-IS are the most common IGPs as
>they provide addtional hooks within the IOS code to support additional
>features such as traffic engineering (examples: support for RSVP, CR-LDP),
>etc.
>
>Ken Sexton
>Data Network Engineering
>ICG Communications
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: thinkworker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:58 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re[2]: Why we need BGP to establish MPLS? [7:39014]
>
>
>It seems I had to use IBGP to establish MPLS, so can u explain how can
>we setup a MPLS network without BGP? Or maybe U mean using the static
>route?
>
>I should check the book I've got called "MPLS & VPN Architecture  &
>Implement" of Cisco press (though it is translated very poor) but I had
>not the book in my hand:(
>
>
>
>By the way, is the book outdated?
>
>On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 03:19:34 -0500
>"nrf"  wrote:
>
> > You don't need BGP to establish MPLS.
> >
> > On the other hand, you might need BGP to enable certain 'value-added'
MPLS
> > applications.
> >
> >
> > ""thinkworker""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Why we need BGP to establish MPLS?
> > >
> > > Now we had to use IGP and IBGP to set up MPLS in a AS. It seems quite
> > > not necessary.
> > >
> > > Can anyone help?




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