So if someone had a 700 series router for 2 years on their ISDN line they would qualify? Please...
Real life is: You need over 5 years experience, Certifications and a 4 year B.S. degree computer related. You would love that if Cisco came out with that statement, because you have over 2 years experience. I am sure there was a time where you didn't. And I am sure people who had a lot more experience then you, helped you out. When I first started my MCSE, I practically memorized a big textbook NT Server Unleashed. I scored a 900 on my NT Server exam without ever touching a server. Since I knew this book so well, I was able to recall things I read when I was out implementing networks with the other SR. engineers. Now and again I would remember something from the book that they didn't. I have the ability to read a book and then implement what I learn in a real world environment. My point is some people like me want to know all the theory, before we go out touching the real networks. Books and Tests will always be different from hands-on and experience. The ability to bridge those two does vary, from person to person. I do have hands a lot of hands on, but I am just saying. I don't care about the test changing, I just want to be told before I sit the exam that it is new before paying $125. I passed routing and I am rushing to get Switching, BCRAN and CIT done. After I finish, I can have all the time in the world to test out my newly learned skills on my home lab, simulations programs (they make a lot of them) Sybex has about 100 of them. And yes, the actual real networks. Just like everyone else does now. You know people are upset about this change, so you post garbage to antagonize people. I can assure you, if they do not tell the CCNP candidates about the change before implemting it, it will not be a good thing for Cisco, its products YOU or its current certification holders. That is the last thing you want to do, is to make people angry, the same ones that are implementing and suggesting network equipment the corporate workplaces. I think everyone is making a big deal out of nothing. It is simple, either you know the topic or you don't. What would everyone do if Cisco decided one day to require all of its exam candidates to provide proof of two years work experience with their products before they are eligible to become certified? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP exams [7:39172] Yea, and the CCIE written and lab cover the same material too. NOT. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Meiers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP exams [7:39172] The test covers the same material!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP exams [7:39172] Sounds like you are talking from your own experiences. I purchased all 500 series material not long ago. I figured since they just came out with the 500 series I would be good for a while. Imagine you sat down for the SAT, and on the top of the page it said "attention, now this test is totally different". Then a guy who took it 5 years ago is saying that he got a 1300, but only had 55 questions. Another guy took it this year and is saying he got a 1200 but it had 69 questions. In my own humble opinion it is enough with the changes already. Please make it a stable exam, which is equal for everyone. Make it the same score, make it the same number of questions. Try to put some consistency in it. And most of all, keep some of us with test anxiety in the loop. Actually working on routers, switches comes from hands on experience with the products. There is not way to simulate a large enterprise of Routers and switches on 1 PC in a testing center. Please, have some common sense before you post garbage like this. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Meiers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP exams [7:39172] Why is everyone so worried about the new exam format? Wouldn't it be amazing if someone with a certification could actually do something? If simulations and a new format are scaring you that bad you shouldn't even be taking the exams -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Villanova Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP exams [7:39172] Are the CCNP exams going to a new format soon? I was talking with someone at my testing center and they said they will be changing the format soon. Anyone know when? Mark Villanova I3Mobile IT Engineer (TX) Main: 817-766-5000 Office: 817-766-5012 Mobile: 817-312-8955 Fax: 817-766-5001 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39235&t=39172 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]