haha...touche, chuck!  no, this is seriously going to be my first time.
i've done a lot of research, and am modeling my lab around the needs of
the "CCIE Practical Studies Vol. 1" book by Karl Solie.  I figure, how
can I model my lab more accurately than if I do so from Cisco's book
itself?  i am also using all my research from this group, as well as any
internet-based research i can find on the subject...

anyway, good point about the "good, cheap, accurate..." deal.  i guess
i'd say "cheap/accurate" is my requirement.  anyway, thanks for your
response.  i'm wondering if i overwhelmed everyone with too much info.
maybe i should focus on one at a time.  therefore...

...ATM: for all your presale engineers out there...if i was to put
together an ATM lab with two ATM routers and 1 ATM switch, what would
you purchase as a minimum requirement while still being able to use all
the features that the lab would require?  so far, i am thinking LS1010
with CAM/PAM and the two routers with ATM interfaces are up in the air.
i was thinking of OC-3 interfaces all around, but even those are
expensive.  can i use a T1 or ATM25 or T3 (etc.) interface to cut my
costs?  would that mess up my lab environment?

thanks, and PLEASE help me out, here.  i can see there are some
well-educated people on this list...

ed

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unless you've already been through the lab, how do you know just how
accurate your emulation is? ;->

to paraphrase someone smarter than me, good, cheap, accurate lab
emulation - you can only have two. :->



""Edward Sohn""  wrote in message
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> hello
>
> after much research, i can't figure out a way to get cheap voice/ATM 
> combo routers to cut my costs.  does anyone have any suggestions as to

> how i can get ATM AND VoIP in my home lab.  i want to purchase 
> everything myself, but at the same time, i want to do so in a way that

> i can save money in the process.  for example, (assuming i have a 
> lightstream switch) if i get a 3600 router with voice and ATM 
> installed, it will be well over $4K for each router with all those 
> interfaces. however, if i combine an MC3810 with voice and a 4000 with

> ATM, i can cut my costs.  but with this latter situation, will i still

> be able to practice VoATM effectively?  i really want to ACCURATELY 
> model a lab after cisco's CCIE lab environment.  how can i do this 
> with the voice and ATM components?
>
> thanks in advance for your replies.  btw, renting telnet access and or

> going to another lab is not an option for me.
>
> thanks,
>
> eddie
>
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