first off, I can't resist being a smart ass, as most list members who've been around more than a couple of weeks will tell you.
secondly, with regards to the Lab topology, the Soltie book doesn't even come close, based upon my last visit. that is not to say that Soltie is not worth studying. He covers the issues quite well indeed. My point is that if you focus on issues, as demonstrated in a number of study materials such as Soltie, Caslow, BootCamp, IPExpert, and others, you will acquire the skills that are necessary to pass. the core topics are no secret - and the biggest and most important thing one can spend time on is redistribution between any two routing protocols over any network topology or link. The success of accomplishing this, or the lack thereof effects reachability, and if you don't have reachability, none of the other stuff will work, be that voice, dlsw, ipx, or anything else they throw at you. with regards to your subsequent question, I'm in pre-sales myself, and I often use my home lab to mock up customer networks and test concepts for designs I am proposing. I don't have ATM, but I like your idea. I have not priced this out, but I would thing that T1 ATM would be sufficient. If you can do ILMI and various kinds of QoS that would be great. Sure wish I had the capability. Having the LS1010, if you had edge equipment such as 3810's or 2650's with the ATM module, so that you could emulate a cloud, I can see the practical advantage, not to mention the advantage for study. Regards Chuck ""Edward Sohn"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > haha...touche, chuck! no, this is seriously going to be my first time. > i've done a lot of research, and am modeling my lab around the needs of > the "CCIE Practical Studies Vol. 1" book by Karl Solie. I figure, how > can I model my lab more accurately than if I do so from Cisco's book > itself? i am also using all my research from this group, as well as any > internet-based research i can find on the subject... > > anyway, good point about the "good, cheap, accurate..." deal. i guess > i'd say "cheap/accurate" is my requirement. anyway, thanks for your > response. i'm wondering if i overwhelmed everyone with too much info. > maybe i should focus on one at a time. therefore... > > ...ATM: for all your presale engineers out there...if i was to put > together an ATM lab with two ATM routers and 1 ATM switch, what would > you purchase as a minimum requirement while still being able to use all > the features that the lab would require? so far, i am thinking LS1010 > with CAM/PAM and the two routers with ATM interfaces are up in the air. > i was thinking of OC-3 interfaces all around, but even those are > expensive. can i use a T1 or ATM25 or T3 (etc.) interface to cut my > costs? would that mess up my lab environment? > > thanks, and PLEASE help me out, here. i can see there are some > well-educated people on this list... > > ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Chuck > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ATM and Voice [7:39849] > > > unless you've already been through the lab, how do you know just how > accurate your emulation is? ;-> > > to paraphrase someone smarter than me, good, cheap, accurate lab > emulation - you can only have two. :-> > > > > ""Edward Sohn"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > hello > > > > after much research, i can't figure out a way to get cheap voice/ATM > > combo routers to cut my costs. does anyone have any suggestions as to > > > how i can get ATM AND VoIP in my home lab. i want to purchase > > everything myself, but at the same time, i want to do so in a way that > > > i can save money in the process. for example, (assuming i have a > > lightstream switch) if i get a 3600 router with voice and ATM > > installed, it will be well over $4K for each router with all those > > interfaces. however, if i combine an MC3810 with voice and a 4000 with > > > ATM, i can cut my costs. but with this latter situation, will i still > > > be able to practice VoATM effectively? i really want to ACCURATELY > > model a lab after cisco's CCIE lab environment. how can i do this > > with the voice and ATM components? > > > > thanks in advance for your replies. btw, renting telnet access and or > > > going to another lab is not an option for me. > > > > thanks, > > > > eddie > > > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a > > name > of > > Notebook.jpg] > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39903&t=39849 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
