You would hopefully never implement an RSFC or an RSM or an MSM
because they do not have the performance capabilities of either an MSFC1
or MSFC2.  The actual question is, which chassis... 7603, 6506, 6509,
6513...
which Supervisor Engine... SUP1A, SUP2... which MSFC... MSFC1 or MSFC2...
how much DRAM and flash on the Supervisors and MSFC's... and which code
to run... Sup IOS 12.1 E train or 12.2 S train... CatOS 5.5.x, 6.1.x, 6.2.x,
6.3.x,
7.1.x + MSFC IOS 12.1 E train or 12.2 S train, or Linux?  Wait did I say
Linux?
Yes, I did.  http://www.ayrnetworks.com/

The cost difference between SUP III (or SUP IIIg) with or without NFFC I or
II
and/or RSM and/or RSFC ... in comparison to say... a SUP1A/PFC1/MSFC2 is
almost nothing.  And the cost difference between say a SUP1A/PFC1/MSFC2 and
a SUP2/PFC2/MSFC2 is also practically very little.

You can't use an MSFC without a PFC.  You can do layer 3 stuff without an
MSFC
and with PFC only, but no routing protocols, not even HSRP.  You can do
ACL's
and QoS things, but still not everything.  You can do RSPAN.  You need an
MSFC
to do routing, just like you need a 7x00 or RSM to do routing with an
NFFC/NFFC-II.
So the disadvantage would be that you can't do anything because it doesn't
work.

Start looking at other vendors for cheap Gigabit Ethernet aggregation that
can do BGP4,
OSPF, ISIS, MPLS, PBR in one box that makes sense.  Or you can have your
packet
headers go across one switch fabric, while the payloads take a different
fabric path while
you start getting pinnacle coil asic errors simultaneously.  Or you can run
some crazy Layer 3
hardware switch that starts software routing at about 32k flows with MLS.
Or you can
install separate blades like the RSM which take up your slots even though
you can't use
slot 13 and there are three separate backplanes at 1.2 Gbps instead of the
claimed 3.6 Gbps.
Or you can continue to support vendors who do this a second time with the
SFM and have
modules with DFC and without and with OSM and without and with "WAN" GbE and
all
sorts of strange things.  Or you can hope and pray that the ACL's don't
start software routing
everything again and whether you are going to go full flow by enabling some
feature or your
NetFlow or SNMP counters never work because the vendor can't fix them.

I really enjoy it when I see some shiny Foundry, Force-10, or Riverstone
layer 3 switches
in data centers because I admire the will of those people to drop brand-C
and promote
something that makes sense even if it takes 15 minutes to get a full BGP
table on them.
Wow I really really hate vendors.  All vendors suck.  Nobody can do a layer
3 switch or
even a cheap, fast, scalable gigabit ethernet router of any kind.  I'm sick
of hearing... Cheap,
Fast, Scalable... pick two.... GET IT RIGHT YOU STUPID VENDORS!@#!

-dre

""Cisco Nuts""  wrote in message
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> Hello,
> When would one implement a RSFC over a RSM or a MSFC over a MSM? Also, do
> these cards go along with a NFFC II (for the RSM or RSFC) and a PFC (for
the
> MSM or the MSFC)?
> What would be the disadvantage if any of not using a NFFC II with a RSFC
or
> the PFC with the MSFC?
> Thank you.




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