I had classes at Cisco on SAFE (EXCELLENT STUFF IF ANYONE GET'S TO GO!!) ,
and the Cisco rep said the same thing - never put anything in core.  If you
look at the SAFE blueprint for Enterprises, the IDS aren't in the core
either (I checked last week).


""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> Do y'all know about Cisco's SAFE design? It's a "blueprint" for
> implementing security on enterprise networks, sort of a template for a
> typical enterprise network (if there is such a thing as typical). It would
> probably give you ideas on where Cisco would put the IDS.
>
> It was developed by Sean Convery (CCIE #4232) and Bernie Trudel (CCIE
> #1884). I know Bernie does good work. If this Sean is related to Sean
> Connery, I'll take his work anytime too. ;-) Anyway, there's a good white
> paper here:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/so/cuso/epso/sqfr/safe_wp.htm
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 06:13 PM 4/7/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
> >I've always understood that anything in the core (access-lists, FW
blades,
> >IDS modules, etc. ) is a bad design as it just slows down traffic as the
> >core is built for speed.  I was always told to move everything to the
distro
> >or access-layer, depending on the function,  AFAIK, the IDS blades have
to
> >look at all traffic, which could slow down core, and this core is for a
> >global bank on Wall St.  If it's not done right now, when they expand
later
> >this year, the network will suck.
> >
> >--
> >
> >RFC 1149 Compliant.
> >Get in my head:
> >http://sar.dynu.com
> >
> >
> >""Kent Hundley""  wrote in message
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> > > It's not a bad idea to have an IDS blade in the core, but if you have
to
> > > pick either the DMZ and server blocks or the core, I would choose the
> > > former.  Having an IDS blade in the core should not affect any other
> > > processing of the switch since its a completely self contained module
> with
> > > its own processor. (course, murphy is always lurking)
> > >
> > > It's also a good idea to have redundant sup's, but cost may be a
factor
> as
> > > well.  One can only have as much redundancy as your pocket book
allows,
> >and
> > > sup's aren't cheap. :-)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kent
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Steven A. Ridder
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:20 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Core layer question [7:40535]
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever designed a network and put either a firewall or IDS
blade
> >in
> > > the core switch block?  Even if the customer had no money, wouldn't
this
> > > never be advisable?  Has anyone ever done it?
> > >
> > > As background for the questions, I started a new job, and so I took
over
> > > some accounts, and who ever has been doing the configs ( I think some
> have
> > > been comming from Cisco!) has been making mistakes here and there.
One
> > > proposal had a 500 phone IP Tel network running over Cat. 3 wiring,
and
> >this
> > > one has a wan block going back to the core block (dual 6506's) with
only
> 1
> > > sup in each and an IDS blade in each!  Isn't it advisable to move the
> >IDS's
> > > to the server and DMZ blocks?  Also, isn't it always advisable to go
with
> >2
> > > sups?
> > >
> > > I just want to make sure I'm not crazy, as I'd not like to casue a ton
of
> > > waves my first week on the job.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > > Get in my head:
> > > http://sar.dynu.com
> ________________________
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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