Phil is pretty much correct, altho we wont do layoffs..we are not
replacing any body that leaves or does not make it on the performance
issues...

Personally I still think the company is the one of the better places to be
if you love
networking and tech, but to each his own....

Phil is also right about the pay, the companies that you really like to be
in don't pay the highest
salary. The supply and demand issue always works for them, since there is no
shortage of people
that want to work for those type of companies...

Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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> No offense Strobel, but I know of no Cisco employee that 1) thinks he or
> she isn't more than one quarter of bad stock reporting away from losing
> their job 2) thinks Cisco is the panacea of employers (the millionaire
> stock guys/ gals have left and those left are eating sour grapes because
> they couldn't vested in time) 3) most positions within Cisco (namely the
> CCIE billets) don't generally pay the upper end of scale, unless you're
> lucky enough to be on a sales account with say someone the size of Time
> Warner/ AOL.
>
> Just my experience- having worked with current and former Cisco
> employees...
>
> Please don't get me wrong, logically it would seem Cisco Corporate is
> the way to go...
>
> All the best !!!
> Phil
>
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> Larry,
>
> Well, it did work for me and as you see I am going for the lab now.
> Of course, ccbootcamp, Boson, cerificationzone these are all just tools.
> The
> actual result varies depending on the person's capacity.
>
> But, I am curious. Why do you want to become a CCIE?
>
> I want to become a CCIE with the hope and anticipation of a better job,
> a
> better income, and a better life.
> You already have a better life. Your signature says you work for Cisco,
> and
> you
> are constantly on this list. This means you are getting paid for surfing
> and
> chatting! This is an ultimate job. I love it.
>
> I don't believe any other employer would give you so much leway  even if
> you
> were holding a PhD in brainsurgery. Where I work, we are not allowd to
> surf
> the
> web and participate in newsgroups when we are on the clock :-(
>
> Forget CCIE and hold on to your good Cisco Systems employer, and shoot
> me an
> application form if they are hiring :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> A Strobel   (working on the lab exam....)
>
>
>
> Quoting Larry Letterman :
>
> > Bernard's test does not work well, I would advise
> > using dennis L.'s boson # 3 test. Its a better test for
> > written.
> >
> >
> > Larry Letterman
> > Cisco Systems
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> >
> >
> > Kris,
> >
> > I am sure you will find tons of info on this subject in archives.
> > Strategies are different from person to person.
> > I used the following to pass my written:
> >
> > -Bruce Caslow's Book (1st or 2nd edition)
> > -Boson #1 by Bernard
> > -CCO
> >
> > You can add www.certificationzone.com to your arsenal if you are an
> avid
> > reader. They have excellent white papers.
> >
> > During the period that you wait and practice for you lab, you can
> read:
> > Halabi
> > Jeff Doyle (1 &2)
> > BGP-4 by parkhurst
> > and many more.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > A Strobel ( working on the lab exam.........)
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Kris Keen :
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I'll be preparing for the CCIE written exam very shortly, Im in the
> > process
> > > of building the tid bits for my lab and collecting the reading
> material..
> > >
> > > What books should I read at a min, and what would be even more
> > advantgeous?
> > >
> > > I have all the CCNP books (Exam Cert Guides) and Doyles TCPIP Vol 1.
> > >
> > > Please help...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Kris
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