At 4:25 PM -0400 4/19/02, William Gragido wrote:
>Thats not necessarily true.  Bill Gates is an excellent example of someone
>with limited education, who went on to be a force to be reckoned with in the
>business world.

I'd offer the friendly amendment that Bill Gates has limited academic 
credentials, but is superbly self-educated, and has the 
communications skills to make that obvious very quickly.

That being said, if there's an opportunity for paid academic training 
early in one's career, take it. At the time I started in the field, 
there really were no meaningful computer science programs, so that 
wasn't an option. At this point, any type of degree wouldn't really 
affect my marketability, with one caveat.  I'd like to be able to 
teach part-time in a graduate curriculum, and a PhD tends to be the 
required credential there.

>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>nrf
>Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:10 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
>
>
>I understand.  But on the other hand, if you have ambitions to be the CxO, a
>CCIE  isn't going to cut it.  Like you said, it's a case of what you want
>out of life.
>
>However, what I will definitely say is this.  If you work for a company that
>is willing to finance your degree at night school, you're a fool not to take
>it.  If you're not the one paying for it, you should get as many degrees as
>you can, because you never know what's going to happen in the future.
>
>
>
>""Wes Stevens""  wrote in message
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>>  A lot of it is what you want out of life. I will be 50 in 5 years and am
>>  perfectly happy playing with cisco's. I make more money then my boss with
>>  the mba does and have more job security. What happens if you get laid off
>at
>>  45 or 50 with a middle to upper management job? If you are not way up
>there
>>  in the corner office area you are going to have a hard time finding a
job.
>I
>>  work for a company in the fortune top 5 that is very stable. Yet this
>>  economy is hitting us also. They are going to cut my office way back from
>>  500 people to 200 by the end of the year. They will offer me a job in
>>  Houston as they can always find a spot for a cisco network engineer. My
>boss
>>  and a lot of other are really scrambling. There are no jobs in the local
>>  market and less chances of them finding a place in another part of the
>>  company as they are cutting back everywhere.
>>
>>  Just some food for thought.
>>
>>
>>  >From: "nrf"
>>  >Reply-To: "nrf"
>>  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  >Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
>>  >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:37:51 -0400
>>  >
>>  >""Drew""  wrote in message
>>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>  > > Sean Knox wrote:
>>  > > >
>>  > > >
>>  > > > I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my CCNP,
I
>>  >am
>>  > > > content with that for now and and getting more experience
>(fortunately
>>  >I
>>  >am
>>  > > > not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this
>>  >awhile).
>>  > > > Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you luck.
>>  > > >
>>  > >
>>  > > I made a similar decision myself within the last few weeks.  I had
>>  > > planned on pursuing my CCIE-Security, but realize that I don't work
>>  > > enough with Cisco products on a daily basis, and certainly not with
>>  > > routing in a complex way, to feel that I would deserve the cert, even
>>  > > if I attained it.  I'm going back to school for my MS in CS, starting
>>  > > classes in June.
>>  > >
>>  > > I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit than
>>  > > an advanced vendor cert.  But thats just me.
>>  >
>>  >Exactly.  Especially later in your life.  Fiddling with Cisco boxes
might
>>  >be
>>  >cool now, but do you still want to be doing that when you're 50?
>Probably
>>  >not, you probably want to be sitting in a director's chair ordering
other
>>  >young guys to set up the systems.  It's hard to win promotion to that
>chair
>  > >without an advanced education.




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