Tamas- Thank you for your reply.

Could you or anyone else explain in more indepth terms what is or what
causes a Half-Closed TCP session??

Correct me if I'm wrong, but for the Connection Slot, this refers to TCP
connections between two nodes, such as a Windows workstation running an
application to connect to a Server Application Server, and the connectios
are between specific and random ports above 1024 simultaneously!?! Do I
understand that correctly?


I'm sure our famous question is starting to surface in many folks' minds:
"What problem are you trying to solve?"

That problem is with users on workstations at remote locations connecting to
an application server (located at the other end of a PIX-to-PIX VPN Tunnel
at the "main" office) and at random, they get disconnected from the
server... but Internet access continues to work at the same time.  In short,
it appears that there is something happening with sessions across the VPN
tunnel for users that go idle for a varying window of time.  Just yesterday,
I was reported that at one of the remote locations (and there are 3, which
all suffer the same exact problem), one user "worked straight through lunch,
while everyone else who used the same application went to lunch.  End result
was that the continuous worker did not get "kicked" out of the system, but
all the other users that left the application open and when to lunch did."

So, I'm trying to chase down what the issue might be, short of putting a
Sniffer at the main location to see if I can identify the problem there.  I
suspect that there is something I need to adjust with the Timeout settings
on the PIX, but did not want to make changes without understanding the
pros/cons/implications of what I was doing.

Unfortunately, the PIX Command Reference for 6.1, CCO, and most of Tamas's
explanation were exactly what I found, and nothing more.... Tamas, thank you
for at least giving me a little more info!

I even searched Google for a definition of "half-closed session", but got no
definitiion hits... just lots of pages (mostly Cisco) mentioning the phrase
amidst other topics. :(

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks
Mark

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Hi!

timeout xlate: Idle time until a translation slot if freed.

timeout conn: Idle time until a connection slot is freed.

There is a distinction made between translated sessions (produced by nat,
global, static,  access-list, access-group commands)and connected sesssions
when discussing the PIX firewall. Translations are at the IP layer,
connections are at the transport layer. You cab have many connections open
under one translation.

timeout half-closed: Idle time until a TCP half-close connection is freed.

timeout udp: Idle time until an UDP slot is freed.

timeout rpc: Idle time until an UDP slot is freed.

If a given slot has not been used for the idle time specified, the resource
is returned to the free pool.

So one purpose of these commands is resource management. Another purpose is
to provide the 'Adaptive' part of the ASA, as the unused ports will be
closed.

Best regards,

            Tamas Horvath
            network engineer
            Tel.: +36 22/515-452,
            Fax: +36 22/327-532
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Folks, I've been trying to find the answer to a couple of questions I have,
and unfortunately, my patience is thin at the moment due to a really bad
allergy attach, which in turn is making me barely be able to stay at the
computer.... but I've got to solve a problem.

So, could someone give me the low-down on what the following terms/settings
really mean in relation to TCP/UDP communications?

These terms are related to settings on a Firewall (PIX or Router), and
explanations relating to such would really help me understand their
purpose/functionality.  Thanks in Advance!!

timeout xlate

timeout conn

timeout half-closed

timeout udp

timeout rpc


I've got what I believe is a solid idea of what the first one, and perhaps
the second one covers... but someone formally explaining them all will make
me, and I'm sure many others benefit.

Thanks,
Mark




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