TCP allows one end of a connection to to terminate its output while still
receiving data fromt he other end. One side can send a fin to close its side
of the connection and still receive data. The side that recieved the FIN to
close the connection can keep sending data. Only when it sends its FIN
packet and receives and ACK for this packet is connection totally closed.


""Mark Odette II""  wrote in message
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> Tamas- Thank you for your reply.
>
> Could you or anyone else explain in more indepth terms what is or what
> causes a Half-Closed TCP session??
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but for the Connection Slot, this refers to TCP
> connections between two nodes, such as a Windows workstation running an
> application to connect to a Server Application Server, and the connectios
> are between specific and random ports above 1024 simultaneously!?! Do I
> understand that correctly?
>
>
> I'm sure our famous question is starting to surface in many folks' minds:
> "What problem are you trying to solve?"
>
> That problem is with users on workstations at remote locations connecting
to
> an application server (located at the other end of a PIX-to-PIX VPN Tunnel
> at the "main" office) and at random, they get disconnected from the
> server... but Internet access continues to work at the same time.  In
short,
> it appears that there is something happening with sessions across the VPN
> tunnel for users that go idle for a varying window of time.  Just
yesterday,
> I was reported that at one of the remote locations (and there are 3, which
> all suffer the same exact problem), one user "worked straight through
lunch,
> while everyone else who used the same application went to lunch.  End
result
> was that the continuous worker did not get "kicked" out of the system, but
> all the other users that left the application open and when to lunch did."
>
> So, I'm trying to chase down what the issue might be, short of putting a
> Sniffer at the main location to see if I can identify the problem there.
I
> suspect that there is something I need to adjust with the Timeout settings
> on the PIX, but did not want to make changes without understanding the
> pros/cons/implications of what I was doing.
>
> Unfortunately, the PIX Command Reference for 6.1, CCO, and most of Tamas's
> explanation were exactly what I found, and nothing more.... Tamas, thank
you
> for at least giving me a little more info!
>
> I even searched Google for a definition of "half-closed session", but got
no
> definitiion hits... just lots of pages (mostly Cisco) mentioning the
phrase
> amidst other topics. :(
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> HORVATH TAMAS
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Definition of terms... Do you know the answer?? [7:43090]
>
>
> Hi!
>
> timeout xlate: Idle time until a translation slot if freed.
>
> timeout conn: Idle time until a connection slot is freed.
>
> There is a distinction made between translated sessions (produced by nat,
> global, static,  access-list, access-group commands)and connected
sesssions
> when discussing the PIX firewall. Translations are at the IP layer,
> connections are at the transport layer. You cab have many connections open
> under one translation.
>
> timeout half-closed: Idle time until a TCP half-close connection is freed.
>
> timeout udp: Idle time until an UDP slot is freed.
>
> timeout rpc: Idle time until an UDP slot is freed.
>
> If a given slot has not been used for the idle time specified, the
resource
> is returned to the free pool.
>
> So one purpose of these commands is resource management. Another purpose
is
> to provide the 'Adaptive' part of the ASA, as the unused ports will be
> closed.
>
> Best regards,
>
>             Tamas Horvath
>             network engineer
>             Tel.: +36 22/515-452,
>             Fax: +36 22/327-532
>             E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID:
> From: Mark Odette II
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> Subject: Definition of terms... Do you know the answer?? [7:43090]
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>
> Folks, I've been trying to find the answer to a couple of questions I
have,
> and unfortunately, my patience is thin at the moment due to a really bad
> allergy attach, which in turn is making me barely be able to stay at the
> computer.... but I've got to solve a problem.
>
> So, could someone give me the low-down on what the following
terms/settings
> really mean in relation to TCP/UDP communications?
>
> These terms are related to settings on a Firewall (PIX or Router), and
> explanations relating to such would really help me understand their
> purpose/functionality.  Thanks in Advance!!
>
> timeout xlate
>
> timeout conn
>
> timeout half-closed
>
> timeout udp
>
> timeout rpc
>
>
> I've got what I believe is a solid idea of what the first one, and perhaps
> the second one covers... but someone formally explaining them all will
make
> me, and I'm sure many others benefit.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark




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