Why does it always have to be a contest of who's is biggest?  If this guy
thinks he can pass the lab then by all means take the class and give the lab
a shot.  I'm sure Cisco would be happy to collect the money from him each
time he takes it.  I guess what I'm trying to say here is take care of your
own business and don't let all the other crap get to you.  People like this
just add to the statistics of mass failure.

The real problem with this reasoning is that you end up lumping people into
the same category because they don't have 10 years of experience.  Too many
times I have been told that my certs are only "paper" because I don't have
this experience.  My response is simple, "mind your own friggin business."
Just because I don't have 10 years of experience doesn't mean I'm any less
of a person.  And guess what?  Eventually I will have 10 years of experience
and people will still say I don't "really" know what I'm doing.

By the way, would your quest for the holy grail really happen if you were
only gonna make $15/hr?  I don't think so.

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> That's an excellent way to sum it up.  Too much has been written about the
> value (or non-value) of the CCIE, or any cert for that matter.  What
> everybody should instead be aiming for is real knowledge.  If a cert helps
> you acquire this knowledge, then so be it.  But the cert is by no means
the
> end of the road.    It is the extreme idea held by certain people who
think
> that all they have to do is pass the lab and money will automatically fall
> out of the sky that I object to.
>
> For example, here is one particular post from another message board that I
> participate in.
>
>  "I passes [sic] my CCNA few months ago. It was an OK test, but I almost
> failed it. I was planning on taking my CCNP and CCIE, but I didnt think I
> could do it. So I decided to look for a training course. Anyway, people
that
> are trying to pass CCIE or are planning on taking CCIE, I wan't to let you
> guys know that I found a great school for Cisco training. It is called
[name
> deleted]...Wahoo, soon I will pass my CCIE and will be making over 100K"
>
> Lest anybody thinks I am making this quote up, you can email me privately
> and I will give you the exact message board where you can find this.  A
guy
> who barely passed the CCNA and now wants to ge the CCIE so that he can
make
> a high salary - needless to say, it is this kind of attitude that gives
the
> lab-rat such a bad name.




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