Besides we are being tested on technologies, not products.
""Thomas Larus"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I don't think Cisco is primarily concerned with the "cost" of outfitting > their own labs with 6500s. After all, their cost is MUCH lower than the > list prices. I think Cisco is being considerate of OUR wallets. This is the > same reason they don't have 7200 routers and 7500 routers on the equipment > list. These are used widely in the "real world," but Cisco wants us to be > able to learn the material without having access to a $50,000 lab (used > prices). > > > ""Tim O'Brien"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Theo, > > > > By no means is the 3550 replacing the 6500 in a real world scenario. The > > 3550 is an "IDF" non-chassis switch. The most density you can get is 48 > > 10/100 ports. However, the IOS structure and layer 3 capabilities allow > you > > to mimic a lot of the new functionality that you have in the 6500. This > will > > allow the CCIE lab to contain new technologies such as Private VLANS, QoS, > > STP enhancements, Voice VLANS, etc... This also gives way to the future of > > the 6500 running native IOS. So, if you are an expert on the 3550, chance > > are that you will know your way around a 6500 pretty well. > > > > Tim > > CCIE 9015 > > > > p.s. Think of the cost of outfitting the 9 CCIE labs with new 6506's. With > > RTP having something like 14 racks, I will use 10 as an average since I > have > > no idea what the other labs have. A simple config on a 6506 with a > > Sup2-MSFC2, a WS-X6348-RJ45V, the necessary software and memory comes to > > $71,000 list price * 90 units = $6,390,000.00! They could throw in a > > WS-C3550-24-EMI for a list price of $4,990.00 and come out with a total of > > $449,100 with a similar feature set. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:26 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391] > > > > > > My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company, > > was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to the > > 5xxx series. I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx because > > of this. Of course I thought this switch would be on the test! It is a > > good machine and I like it. Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too > > but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx. > > > > IDS is only part of the problem. The 65xx uses modules. I thought for > > sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the modules > > not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more > > importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales. Don't you want to > > promote the modules on the 65xxx???? They are really expensive and Cisco > > must make some good money off of them. > > > > The 3550 is what? Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay, each > > for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many > > enterprises are using? I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year > > and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx. Of course many > > customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular > > switch. It just doesn't make sense..... It looks too easy. > > > > But hey! It's your company! Of course it will be beneficial to me as a > > test-taker to have the 3550. I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not > > putting the replacement switch on the test. Your commments???? > > > > Theo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Larry Letterman" > > 06/13/2002 02:33 PM > > > > > > To: , > > cc: > > Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391] > > > > > > and why are you so distraught about no IDS..? > > other than the fact we all know your big on security. > > > > Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of > > the R/S lab, not the security lab... > > > > > > Larry Letterman > > Cisco Systems > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:11 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391] > > > > > > I don't know about this thing. > > What is the real throughput I wonder. > > It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says "X > > Gbbs throughput" > > Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies? I would like to know > > if it can really take a beating without losing packets. > > And this thing can't do IDS! Why O why did they choose this thing? How > > about the Content Swiching Module? Does it have anything like this? I am > > looking at the page now and can't see anything promising. Man was someone > > sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS??? > > > > I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10 > > 1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various > > servers. I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble. Can > > the 3550 really perform???? > > > > Theo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mark Odette II" > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 06/13/2002 12:14 PM > > Please respond to "Mark Odette II" > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cc: > > Subject: RE: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391] > > > > > > The 3550 running the Enhanced image of IOS is a layer 3 switch with 24 > > or 48 ports- No need for a Route Module add-on. You can put an IP on > > every single port too from what I understand. > > > > It more or less can do the same thing as a 6500 - minus any Tel-Co > > blades that might be able to be put in the 6500. Of course, I don't > > have any experience with the 6500 series switch, so I don't know what > > all you can put in it. :( > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:24 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391] > > > > Dream of many 3550s...... > > > > Question: Maybe I am an Idiot or something but why are they using the > > 3550? I just don't understand. I thought they shoud use the 6506 or > > something like that not a lower model. Can someone clarify this point > > for > > me. > > > > Theo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Steven A. Ridder" > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 06/13/2002 11:00 AM > > Please respond to "Steven A. Ridder" > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cc: > > Subject: Re: Not on;y is TR going... [7:46391] > > > > > > I'm an idiot. I see someone else already posted it. > > > > I'm going to bed then..... > > > > Steve > > > > ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Right from Cisco's mouth: NO MORE IPX, TOKEN RING, OR CatOS!!!!! > > > > > > "CCIE candidates should note changes to the technical content and > > equipment > > > in the lab exam. Effective October 1st, 2002, candidates will no > > longer > > be > > > tested in the areas of IGRP, Token Ring, Token Ring Switching, or IPX. > > Note: > > > DLSW+ will remain as a protocol that can be tested in the lab. The > > Catalyst > > > 5500 switch will be replaced with the Catalyst 3550." > > > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#1 > > 8 > > > > > > -- > > > RFC 1149 Compliant Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=46462&t=46391 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
