Okay, like I said, it is good for the test taker. Your point is
accepted.
Theo
"Tim O'Brien"
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Theo,
By no means is the 3550 replacing the 6500 in a real world scenario. The
3550 is an "IDF" non-chassis switch. The most density you can get is 48
10/100 ports. However, the IOS structure and layer 3 capabilities allow
you
to mimic a lot of the new functionality that you have in the 6500. This
will
allow the CCIE lab to contain new technologies such as Private VLANS, QoS,
STP enhancements, Voice VLANS, etc... This also gives way to the future of
the 6500 running native IOS. So, if you are an expert on the 3550, chance
are that you will know your way around a 6500 pretty well.
Tim
CCIE 9015
p.s. Think of the cost of outfitting the 9 CCIE labs with new 6506's. With
RTP having something like 14 racks, I will use 10 as an average since I
have
no idea what the other labs have. A simple config on a 6506 with a
Sup2-MSFC2, a WS-X6348-RJ45V, the necessary software and memory comes to
$71,000 list price * 90 units = $6,390,000.00! They could throw in a
WS-C3550-24-EMI for a list price of $4,990.00 and come out with a total of
$449,100 with a similar feature set.
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My bewilderment comes from my previous belief that Cisco, your company,
was promoting the 6000 and 6500 series switches as the replacement to the
5xxx series. I have recommeded since last August to use the 65xx because
of this. Of course I thought this switch would be on the test! It is a
good machine and I like it. Of course I like Foundry's ServerIrons too
but for a Cisco Switch, I really do like the 65xx.
IDS is only part of the problem. The 65xx uses modules. I thought for
sure Cisco would want engineers to know about how to configure the modules
not only because it increases the value of the engineer but more
importantly, it is useful in marketing and sales. Don't you want to
promote the modules on the 65xxx???? They are really expensive and Cisco
must make some good money off of them.
The 3550 is what? Perhaps we can all buy one, I just saw 4 on e-bay, each
for under $3000, but doesn't Cisco want to test us off of what many
enterprises are using? I was at a Cisco Gold Partner company last year
and they only recommended the 5xxx and then the 65xx. Of course many
customers bought the 29xx but on the test there was the 5xxx-a modular
switch. It just doesn't make sense..... It looks too easy.
But hey! It's your company! Of course it will be beneficial to me as a
test-taker to have the 3550. I am just at a loss as to why Cisco is not
putting the replacement switch on the test. Your commments????
Theo
"Larry Letterman"
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and why are you so distraught about no IDS..?
other than the fact we all know your big on security.
Its a basic l2/l3 switch for the lan switching part of
the R/S lab, not the security lab...
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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I don't know about this thing.
What is the real throughput I wonder.
It says 24Gbbs switching fabric but I can't find a place where is says "X
Gbbs throughput"
Has anyone really ever tested one of these puppies? I would like to know
if it can really take a beating without losing packets.
And this thing can't do IDS! Why O why did they choose this thing? How
about the Content Swiching Module? Does it have anything like this? I am
looking at the page now and can't see anything promising. Man was someone
sniffing acid when they suggested the switch and it wasn't IDS???
I would like to know if anyone has any experience with this with like 10
1-gig copper connections, all intensive traffic flows between various
servers. I know the 6509 can take the pain without too much trouble. Can
the 3550 really perform????
Theo
"Mark Odette II"
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The 3550 running the Enhanced image of IOS is a layer 3 switch with 24
or 48 ports- No need for a Route Module add-on. You can put an IP on
every single port too from what I understand.
It more or less can do the same thing as a 6500 - minus any Tel-Co
blades that might be able to be put in the 6500. Of course, I don't
have any experience with the 6500 series switch, so I don't know what
all you can put in it. :(
Mark
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Dream of many 3550s......
Question: Maybe I am an Idiot or something but why are they using the
3550? I just don't understand. I thought they shoud use the 6506 or
something like that not a lower model. Can someone clarify this point
for
me.
Theo
"Steven A. Ridder"
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I'm an idiot. I see someone else already posted it.
I'm going to bed then.....
Steve
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> Right from Cisco's mouth: NO MORE IPX, TOKEN RING, OR CatOS!!!!!
>
> "CCIE candidates should note changes to the technical content and
equipment
> in the lab exam. Effective October 1st, 2002, candidates will no
longer
be
> tested in the areas of IGRP, Token Ring, Token Ring Switching, or IPX.
Note:
> DLSW+ will remain as a protocol that can be tested in the lab. The
Catalyst
> 5500 switch will be replaced with the Catalyst 3550."
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>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#1
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