The folks who brought you the "Caslow" book and the old ECP1 class taught that you should do all your L2 first, then make a second pass to do your L3. their reasoning was that it became easier to troubleshoot if you did things one layer at a time. Otherwise, if you put it all in, and there was a problem, you had too many variables to consider.
OTOH, these same folks are very big on checklists. Knowing, memorizing, ordered lists of things to do in each and every situation. Putting ISDN aside for a moment, given that the current Lab structure "assures" that your L1 is good, and that your L3 is pretty much ( not 100% ) ready to go, that leaves you a bit more freedom in how you approach things. Everyone who has studied ISDN knows that it can be problematic, even in the best of circumstances. The CCIE Lab is definitely NOT the best of circumstances! My opinion, based on practice and on conversation, is that you have to have confidence that you can configure it correctly from scratch, and be confident that even if it does not appear to be working, that you have done things correctly. this is where the checklist approach comes in, and where you need to develop a consistent approach each and every time you do ISDN ( or anything else for that matter ) if you are told, for example, to use PAP authentication, and to use the router name as the authentication name, will that throw you off if you have studied in a particular manner? OTOH, if your checklist goes something like: ISDN: Calling party I) physical interface steps a) setup b) authentication 1) pap 2) chap II ) logical interface steps a) setup b) authentication 1) PAP 2) CHAP ISDN: Called party I) physical interface steps a) setup b) authentication 1) pap 2) chap II ) logical interface steps a) setup b) authentication 1) PAP 2) CHAP that gives you a framework from which you can quickly and easily configure ISDN under any given set of circumstances. Obviously, this checklist is by no means complete. but I think you get the idea. Don't lose yourself in memorizing configurations, don't get distracted by infinite variations, do learn the specific details based on a consistent approach. this, BTW, is where "speed" comes into play. Speed is not how fast you can type. It is how fast you can turn the written requirement into a working configuration. If you have to spend too much time thinking about the requirement, you will find yourself out of time, no matter how fast you type. JMHO from someone who's been there and will be there again. ""Pierre-Alex Guanel"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Thank you for the Tips Bernard. I will change my "bad" habits :) > > Just curious... When you configure your routers do you enter all the > commands in global config mode, then interface mode, then router mode > ? Or do you configure the routers according to the sequence in which the > router operates (for example: Layer 1, Layer 2, Layer 3)? > > I have found that when I configure my routers the second way, I feel much > more in control of what is going on (because the config is logical). The > down side is that I take much more time because I am some how thinking about > the process while I am doing it. > > On the other hand, when I configure from memory (i.e. all commands in global > mode, then interface mode ...) there is no "internal dialog" but things are > going much faster and I can keep within the timeline. > > I would like to know how the folks who took the CCIE and those who are close > to taking it configure routers under time presure: memorization of configs > or sequence in which the router operates > > Thanks, > > Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47390&t=47320 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]