Over here in South Africa, UUNET is claiming that they were not reliant on Worldcom for any financing, and that they (UUNET South Africa) have been profitable for the last 9 years or so and are still in the process of expanding... WorldCom's problems don't affect them ... Or so they say. Plus all of UUNET's Advertising still claims "Cisco Powered Network"
UUNET, a truly good company from my experience with them. Thanks Manish -----Original Message----- From: Brian Lodwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 July 2002 18:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Off Topic - Cisco vis a vis World Com [7:47505] Don't confuse UUNet with WCOMs data networking division? UUNet is WorldCom, WorldCom is UUNet. All one big happy family right? A while back WorldCom finally stiff armed all UUNet people to fully integrate. Even to the point where you were not allowed to have your signature say UUNet on it it had to say WorldCom (and basically I think that was the day we lost control of the rudder and started heading towards that iceburg). WorldCom is Compuserve, UUNet, MFS, ANS, Rythms, and alot of others. I think this string is pretty silly. As if a carrier as big as WorldCom would be an all this or an all that shop. WorldCom is so huge there is no way you could catagorize it as a _______ shop. What Cisco router are you going to use to run DDCMP? We've got an entire network that runs a modified version of X.25 and the line protocol is called DDCMP. We've got like a bazillion routers out there (almost 30 billion ;-) and we've acquired like a bazillion different companies over the years. I see Junipers, Nortels, Lucents, Bays, Fujitsus, 3Coms, and a whole lotta Ciscos. I don't think the first guy can start counting his chickens right yet. I don't have any unrealistic ideas on what will happen to WorldCom, but even if banruptcy occurs I don't think we will just shut our doors and go home especially our backbone and managed data services. (Don't get me wrong though I'm definitely worried and am studying like a madman for my lab in August, and getting my resume out) I think it's terrible that something like this has happening to UUNet. UUNet was such a great company. An awesome backbone. We are one of the only backbones big enough and have enough traffic management charachteristics to be able to offer awesome SLA's from site to site through the internet. So many cool research projects going on for instance we have a multicast backbone, and an IPV6 backbone. All kinds of neat stuff. I've never learned so much. I think we are seeing the furthering of this industry coming to a screeching halt. My catch phrase is we might not do everything right here and might be a little screwed up here and there, but we are definitely the least screwed up ISP out there. This industry in my opinion is just asking for a replay of the auto industry a few years back. Japan comes in, takes this place, clips off all the fat, adds in alot of quality assurance teams and completely dominates the market. Ok I'm done, I'm sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now since that security guard down the hall is saying I am tresspassing since this building is no longer owned by WorldCom -kidding ;-) >>>Brian >From: "deltan" >Reply-To: "deltan" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Off Topic - Cisco vis a vis World Com [7:47505] >Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 03:48:57 GMT > >UUNet is a Cisco shop for sure (Canada and US). > >And don't confuse WCOM's data networking division with >UUNet (WCOM's subsidiary in Internetworking). > >Those students might be talking about the data >networking side....true or false, I don't know. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=48304&t=47505 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

