This company is way too big. I am not particularly versed in exactly how 
everything went down when the acquisition went through, but I do know I 
worked for UUNET a while back and now I work for WorldCom. The part of 
WorldCom that used to be called UUNET is in fact a huge money maker and I 
believe one of our best assetts. I would love to go back to being UUNET and 
not have anything to do with everything else that makes up WorldCom!

>>>Brian


>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Off Topic - Cisco vis a vis World Com [7:47505]
>Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 05:07:09 GMT
>
>Over here in South Africa, UUNET is claiming that they were not reliant on
>Worldcom for any financing, and that they (UUNET South Africa) have been
>profitable for the last 9 years or so and are still in the process of
>expanding... WorldCom's problems don't affect them ... Or so they say. Plus
>all of UUNET's Advertising still claims "Cisco Powered Network"
>
>UUNET, a truly good company from my experience with them.
>
>Thanks
>Manish
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian Lodwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 05 July 2002 18:47
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Off Topic - Cisco vis a vis World Com [7:47505]
>
>
>Don't confuse UUNet with WCOMs data networking division? UUNet is
>WorldCom, WorldCom is UUNet. All one big happy family right? A while back
>WorldCom finally stiff armed all UUNet people to fully integrate. Even to
>the point where you were not allowed to have your signature say UUNet on it
>it had to say WorldCom (and basically I think that was the day we lost
>control of the rudder and started heading towards that iceburg). WorldCom 
>is
>
>Compuserve, UUNet, MFS, ANS, Rythms, and alot of others.
>   I think this string is pretty silly. As if a carrier as big as WorldCom
>would be an all this or an all that shop. WorldCom is so huge there is no
>way you could catagorize it as a _______ shop. What Cisco router are you
>going to use to run DDCMP? We've got an entire network that runs a modified
>version of X.25 and the line protocol is called DDCMP. We've got like a
>bazillion routers out there (almost 30 billion ;-) and we've acquired like 
>a
>
>bazillion different companies over the years. I see Junipers, Nortels,
>Lucents, Bays, Fujitsus, 3Coms, and a whole lotta Ciscos.
>I don't think the first guy can start counting his chickens right yet. I
>don't have any unrealistic ideas on what will happen to WorldCom, but even
>if banruptcy occurs I don't think we will just shut our doors and go home
>especially our backbone and managed data services. (Don't get me wrong
>though I'm definitely worried and am studying like a madman for my lab in
>August, and getting my resume out)
>   I think it's terrible that something like this has happening to UUNet.
>UUNet was such a great company. An awesome backbone. We are one of the only
>backbones big enough and have enough traffic management charachteristics to
>be able to offer awesome SLA's from site to site through the internet. So
>many cool research projects going on for instance we have a multicast
>backbone, and an IPV6 backbone. All kinds of neat stuff. I've never learned
>so much. I think we are seeing the furthering of this industry coming to a
>screeching halt. My catch phrase is we might not do everything right here
>and might be a little screwed up here and there, but we are definitely the
>least screwed up ISP out there.
>   This industry in my opinion is just asking for a replay of the auto
>industry a few years back. Japan comes in, takes this place, clips off all
>the fat, adds in alot of quality assurance teams and completely dominates
>the market.
>   Ok I'm done, I'm sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now since that security
>guard down the hall is saying I am tresspassing since this building is no
>longer owned by WorldCom -kidding ;-)
>
> >>>Brian
>
>
> >From: "deltan"
> >Reply-To: "deltan"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Off Topic - Cisco vis a vis World Com [7:47505]
> >Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 03:48:57 GMT
> >
> >UUNet is a Cisco shop for sure (Canada and US).
> >
> >And don't confuse WCOM's data networking division with
> >UUNet (WCOM's subsidiary in Internetworking).
> >
> >Those students might be talking about the data
> >networking side....true or false, I don't know.
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