it is a good discussion that is going on here. Roberts that is a good advice..
If u r not putting ccie written on ur resume how can u show the time and efforts that u have been putting on acheiving it.. I have this freind of mine who worked for a body shopping firm and the company that had a contract scrapped it and he lost his job, when he was preparing for the Ccie lab when he had not written any other certification other than the one he is pursuing... the mention of ccie (pursuing) i think highlight's both. rgds, Murali -----Original Message----- From: Roberts, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE written on resume? [7:48868] Personal advice. List your certifications only. CCNP,CCDP,CCNA,MCSE,etc... There is no certification called "CCIE written". I would instead place this under experience section. When I was a hiring manager, I frowned heavily upon candidates who made up certifications like putting "CNE 6/8", which I was meant to take as having passed 6 of 8 tests for the CNE ( I don't remember the exact numbers that were on it ) I would also mention the fact that you have passed the CCIE written in your opening paragraph. It's an accomplishment to be proud of! Its just not a certification. While I cant tell you the most effective way of presenting your skillset, I can tell you from personal experience that you will loose far more interviews that you will gain with "CCIE Written" on your resume , or at least that is the case in the states. It might also be helpful to get in contact with a headhunter/placement company in your area that has a good reputation and get their advice. Experience counts when it comes time to creating the most effective resume that you can. Other words of advice would be to be specific in what you have done. Don't put "assisted in the global migration of Layer 3 devices", instead use something along the lines of "lead engineer in the Design,installation and turn-up of Cisco routers in an IP/IPX network at 250 locations with varying access circuits from T-1 to T-3,DS-3 and OC-12." I say this because your resume is going to be scanned into a database and someone is going to do a search on keywords. In small companies a very experienced HR person will look at the first statement and say "fluff". With a tight market, they are going to choose the person that is the best match, and they are not going to call you to find out even though it not on your resume', your are the absolute perfect match . They will assume that because you didn't say Cisco, you don't have experience. Bad assumptions I know, but in a tight market this tends to happen. What will happen is the further investigation will happen to the 50 people that did put it on there resume. I'm sure that others will have even better information and job searching hints to provide to you so take them all in, figure out what is best for you and be persistent. Good luck to you in your search. Thanks Larry -----Original Message----- From: G Z [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE written on resume? [7:48868] I am persuing the written portion of the CCIE. I want to put this on my resume when the test is passed but it is not a certification in itself. There is no logical reason not to put it there as it shows additional knowledge and that is what the resume is for. But awhile back I think this topic was discussed but don't remember the particulars (I was not a CCNA at the time even). It seems to be like saying that you don't have a degree but have completed some college. Also where would this go on a resume? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, George Zutaut Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=48900&t=48868 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]