"I will be a CCIE before I die"? Man, is that how we look at this?

""Vogel Matthew GS-11 CFAO/IRMD""  wrote in
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> I would like to add my 2 cents on this topic as well.  This is a debate
that
> I have heard over and over and the answer is that it depends on the
> individual person and what they wish to achieve with a CCIE certification.
> A couple of points need to be made.
>
> 1. Certifications, including the CCIE, are not a guarantee of a job or a
> particular salary.  I am studying for the CCIE now and everyone tells me
> that I am going to make six figures when I get my cert.  I do not believe
> that that will happen and I am not getting my cert for the money.  I work
> for the government for less than my peers and will continue to do so after
I
> get my cert.  A government job has great benefits and good job security.
I
> also get to go home at 4:30 everyday.
>
> 2. Certification does not mean you know it all.  True the CCIE is the
> pinnacle of Cisco certs but is does not mean you know it all.  There are
> many more topics that are not covered in the CCIE that a person may not
have
> knowledge of.  That is why there are multiple CCIE tracks.
>
> 3. Continuing one's education is never a bad thing.   In the networking
> world things change by the day.  Working toward a cert and staying
certified
> is a good way to force yourself to stay up with the technology.
>
> 4. Better to have the cert than not to.  If you are applying for a job and
> their are two other candidates with the same experience level and training
> but you have a CCIE cert and they do not, who do you think is going to get
> the job?  In today's job market every little bit helps.  For ever person I
> have heard say it did not make a difference when they got hired, I know
> three more people that say a cert did make the difference.  I know that my
> certs, MCSE, CCNP, and CCDA helped me get my current job right after Sept.
> 11.
>
> Like I said, it boils down to each individual making a decision.
Personally
> I am not going for the CCIE for the money or a job.  I already have both.
> The payback for me in the knowledge that I got the cert when others said I
> could not.  The prestige is also a good thing.  To me it does not matter
how
> long or how much money it takes, I will be a CCIE before I die.
>
> Matt
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: McHugh Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE WORTH IT? [7:50941]
>
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> I am not so sure it is worth it. I had a CCNP, CCDP, and experience as a
> network engineer and was out of work for almost an entire year. I think it
> is only worth it for the challenge and if you really love it , becuase
your
> going to have to put so much time and effort into passing the lab unless
> your willing to make a huge sacrifice and really enjoy it then just not
> going to be fun. Just my  2 cents.




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