Larry hit it right on the head.  WFQ is a poor choice for voice, and you'll
probably notice a huge difference when moving to LLQ.

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> I have 6 sites that have active queuing for VoIP traffic on the Qwest VPN
> network. ( and 100 or so others that don't )
>
> I have heard good things about the quality , to the point that they are
> starting to request other sites have this as well.
>
> I configured it for LLQ on the interface, and required that they send
their
> voice traffic with the DSCP already set.
> I guess I could have done it for them, but if they have the ability to
mark
> the traffic, I let the Voice Switches do it.
>
> I believe that I used a priority of 128k for the Voice Queue, and matched
> that via a bandwidth statement on the class default.
> It depends on the amount of data that you are going to have going between
> sites, and the compression that you use.
> I'm being told that they are using 729a, but that's just what I'm told.
>
> If jitter is the problem , LLQ should fix it as the variance is most
likely
> caused by your routers. I say this knowing that with the loss of
customers,
> the VPN has plenty of spare bandwidth to use :)
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VoIP over Qwest VPN WAN backbone [7:51837]
>
>
> Has anyone deployed VoIP successfully across Qwest's WAN backbone?  I have
2
> sites connected over Qwest's VPN service (consists of running
> IPSec over Qwest's MPLS backbone).   Qwest says they currently have no
> QOS support in backbone, but the backbone has huge capacity (OC-192
pipes),
> which Qwest asserts should support VoIP apps.  Round trip ping times
across
> the WAN are typically 50 msec.
>
> I have the traditional VoIP problem of excessive jitter causing poor voice
> quality.  Currently have 2621 routers at each site running WFQ wth Voice
> packets marked with IP precedence 5 for voice data, and IP precedence 3
for
> voice control.  I am considering re-configuring the routers to run
> PQ-CBWFQ.
>
> If anyone has successfully got VoIP running successfully across this
Qwest's
> backbone, I would be interested in hearing your approach and which config
> worked.  Even though the Qwest WAN has huge capacity, but no QOS support,
> can it really support real-time apps like VoIP???
>
> thanks,
> dj
>
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