I agree that SIP is the future, it just isn't there yet.  There is some SIP
being built into Unity and CM, but until everything is SIP (as opposed to
MGCP/H.323 and Skinny), it just isn't useful yet.

 I know that SIP is being deployed in SP networks, and I have implemented it
in a Telco, but for enterprise, it's useless.  I can't wait til it is
developed and more mature.


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> Ok, so SIP is nowhere near useless.  It is being used all over the place
and
> will eventually replace H.323.  Telcos like Vonage (which uses Cisco SIP
> equipment), deltathree, and Denwa are using it for last mile telephony
> connectivity for residences and enterprises, and WorldCom, after surfacing
> from its financial issues, will be using it on its global network as well.
> Microsoft has built a SIP client into Windows XP (Microsoft Messenger) and
> SIP is very flexible and extensible and the best place to start is
> http://www.sipcenter.com.  PBX manufacturers like Mitel and Siemens have
> developed their PBX completely around SIP.
>
> To get back to Cisco (as this is a Cisco newsgroup), Cisco has taken the
> time and $$ to start to develop SIP functionality in its products despite
> the fact that it isn't need for AVVID at all.  Though their initial SIP
> focus is on carrier-class products (since that is the logical choice --
see
> my list of companies above), my bet is that SIP will surface as a more
> central part of the AVVID architecture for the enterprise.  A good Cisco
> link is here:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/tyvdve/sip/prodlit/index.shtml
>
>  or here (which displays more enterprise scenarios):
>
>
http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/voice/sipsols/biggulp/index.htm
> Regards,
>
> Jason




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