so to rephrase the original question, although there is never more than one
token on the ring, there can be more than one data/command frame...????

or am I totally missing the point ;-)

Tim

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> Mike Mandulak wrote:
> >
> > Oops I forgot to cc my reply to the list again. but you're
> > right.
> >
> > Here's what I sent him...
> > Only one. However (there's always a however) the adapters can
> > be configured
> > to use ETR (early token release) which means that as soon as an
> > adapter
> > starts receiving a frame it can start transmitting its own data
> > out the TX
> > path while receiving the incoming frame. While that's not 2
> > tokens, it is 2
> > different frames on the wire at the same time.
>
> That's not really what it means, not that it matters much these days. ;-)
>
> With no early token release, a sending station must see its own frame come
> back before it releases a free token that someone else can grab.
>
> With early token release (ETR), a sending station can release a token at
the
> end of its transmission, regarless of whether it's starting to receive its
> own transmission yet. Someone else can grab the free token and turn it
into
> a frame. Hence, there can be more than one frame, as you say, but still
only
> one free token.
>
> It was all a bunch of marketing FUD really though. It would have to be a
> physically very large network for the ETR feature to make any difference.
On
> typical networks, the sender was already getting back its own transmission
> as it finished its transmission anyway. So it released a free token at
about
> the same time regardless if ETR was in use or not. But nobody cares any
more
> about the actual behavior. You just have to learn the theory. ;-)
>
> _________________________
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
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> www.priscilla.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken Chipps"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 9:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: Token Ring fundamentals [7:53871]
> >
> >
> > > One, unless early token release is in effect. Assuming I am
> > remembering
> > > my old Token Ring stuff right.
> > > ""Tim Metz""  wrote in message
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> > > > While doing some token ring reading I realized that I have
> > no idea how
> > > many
> > > > tokens can be on the ring at one time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > anyone??? stupid question??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tim




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