Yes, Sem1 does concentrate on Layer 1.  We teach the concepts from the
bottom up.  But, as we all know, Top Down Network Design is best.  Didn't
someone write a book on it?  All good design starts by getting Layer 8
issues resolved first.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

  Tom Lisa wrote:
  >
  > I'm hurt to say the least.  I touch on all of those, albeit
  > briefly.  After all, I'm not
  > teaching CCDA/DP courses.
  >
  > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
  > Community College of Southern Nevada
  > Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy

  I'm sure experienced, knowledgable professors such as yourself do
  teach
  design in a well-rounded fashion. ;-) It's more the Academy course
  materials
  I was concerned about. They teach design from a cabling, hardware,
  product
  viewpoint, which does have some value, by the way. As Chuck
  mentioned, you
  have to think about the positioning of wiring closets, the MDF, etc.
  Cisco
  Networking Academy harps on that a lot, from what I remember.

  Priscilla

  >
  > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
  >
  > > Thank-you very much for the recommendations for Top-Down
  > Network Design. I
  > > probably don't express my gratitude often enough to the many
  > people who
  > > bought the book.
  > >
  > > I suspect that we may be helping a Cisco Networking Academy
  > student with
  > > homework. ;-) This sounds a lot like the exercises they do.
  > That program has
  > > a tendency to teach a bottom-up design methodology that
  > focuses on physcial
  > > size and technology/media selection, before gaining an
  > understanding for:
  > >
  > > business and "political" concerns
  > > budget
  > > user expectations for reliability, response time, etc.
  > > application requirements for bandwidth, delay, etc.
  > > appliation behavior in terms of broadcasts, traffic patterns,
  > etc.
  > >
  > > You all did a good job of pointing out the importantance of
  > these concepts,
  > > so I will say no more.
  > >
  > > Priscilla
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Chuck's Long Road wrote:
  > > >
  > > > ""Tim Medley""  wrote in message
  > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  > > > > If you are serious about designing this netwoek and
  > designing
  > > > ir correctly
  > > > > for scalability and functionality, pick up a good network
  > > > design book.
  > > > >
  > > > > My reccomendation is Top Down Network Design, by Priscilla
  > > > Openheimer. U
  > > > > have two copies one at home and one at the office, I
  > refer to
  > > > this tome
  > > > > quite often. Great book, excellent methodology.
  > > >
  > > > CL: a good book indeed. the irony here is that oftentimes,
  > > > particularly in
  > > > smaller environments, the person who has to make these
  > > > decisions is under a
  > > > severe time constraint, and does not have time to attain the
  > > > background that
  > > > all of us study. back in the days when I was a network
  > manager,
  > > > I never had
  > > > time to learn this stuff. my own road to correct network
  > > > thinking began
  > > > after I was downsized. :->
  > > >
  > > > >
  > > > >
  > > > >
  > > > > Tim Medley, CCNP+Voice, CCDP, CWNA
  > > > > Sr. Network Architect
  > > > > VoIP Group
  > > > > iReadyWorld
  > > > >
  > > > >
  > > > > -----Original Message-----
  > > > > From: Jimmy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 11:01 PM
  > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > > > Subject: LAN Design [7:54023]
  > > > >
  > > > >
  > > > > If i have to design network for 3 storey on a building.
  > There
  > > > are around
  > > > > 200-300 workstations in 2 storey each. Is it advisable to
  > use
  > > > Ethernet to
  > > > > link them up. As for the other storey it is for admin
  > > > purpose. The
  > > > distance
  > > > > is around 150m between the further storey. However it is
  > > > possible to put a
  > > > > switch/router at the middle for interconnect.
  > > > >
  > > > > Cheers,
  > > > > Jimmy
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