depends on how you define the "uber" layers. here's mine: layer 8 - religion (in the sense of big/little endian) layer 9 - politics layer 10 - economics.
have been bitten by each at one point or another, so they are relevant but contextual. thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Lisa" To: Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:45 AM Subject: Re: LAN Design [7:54023] > Yes, Sem1 does concentrate on Layer 1. We teach the concepts from the > bottom up. But, as we all know, Top Down Network Design is best. Didn't > someone write a book on it? All good design starts by getting Layer 8 > issues resolved first. > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > Community College of Southern Nevada > Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > Tom Lisa wrote: > > > > I'm hurt to say the least. I touch on all of those, albeit > > briefly. After all, I'm not > > teaching CCDA/DP courses. > > > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > > Community College of Southern Nevada > > Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy > > I'm sure experienced, knowledgable professors such as yourself do > teach > design in a well-rounded fashion. ;-) It's more the Academy course > materials > I was concerned about. They teach design from a cabling, hardware, > product > viewpoint, which does have some value, by the way. As Chuck > mentioned, you > have to think about the positioning of wiring closets, the MDF, etc. > Cisco > Networking Academy harps on that a lot, from what I remember. > > Priscilla > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > Thank-you very much for the recommendations for Top-Down > > Network Design. I > > > probably don't express my gratitude often enough to the many > > people who > > > bought the book. > > > > > > I suspect that we may be helping a Cisco Networking Academy > > student with > > > homework. ;-) This sounds a lot like the exercises they do. > > That program has > > > a tendency to teach a bottom-up design methodology that > > focuses on physcial > > > size and technology/media selection, before gaining an > > understanding for: > > > > > > business and "political" concerns > > > budget > > > user expectations for reliability, response time, etc. > > > application requirements for bandwidth, delay, etc. > > > appliation behavior in terms of broadcasts, traffic patterns, > > etc. > > > > > > You all did a good job of pointing out the importantance of > > these concepts, > > > so I will say no more. > > > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck's Long Road wrote: > > > > > > > > ""Tim Medley"" wrote in message > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > If you are serious about designing this netwoek and > > designing > > > > ir correctly > > > > > for scalability and functionality, pick up a good network > > > > design book. > > > > > > > > > > My reccomendation is Top Down Network Design, by Priscilla > > > > Openheimer. U > > > > > have two copies one at home and one at the office, I > > refer to > > > > this tome > > > > > quite often. Great book, excellent methodology. > > > > > > > > CL: a good book indeed. the irony here is that oftentimes, > > > > particularly in > > > > smaller environments, the person who has to make these > > > > decisions is under a > > > > severe time constraint, and does not have time to attain the > > > > background that > > > > all of us study. back in the days when I was a network > > manager, > > > > I never had > > > > time to learn this stuff. my own road to correct network > > > > thinking began > > > > after I was downsized. :-> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Medley, CCNP+Voice, CCDP, CWNA > > > > > Sr. Network Architect > > > > > VoIP Group > > > > > iReadyWorld > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jimmy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 11:01 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: LAN Design [7:54023] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If i have to design network for 3 storey on a building. > > There > > > > are around > > > > > 200-300 workstations in 2 storey each. Is it advisable to > > use > > > > Ethernet to > > > > > link them up. As for the other storey it is for admin > > > > purpose. The > > > > distance > > > > > is around 150m between the further storey. However it is > > > > possible to put a > > > > > switch/router at the middle for interconnect. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Jimmy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=54218&t=54023 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
