Anyone know what the average expected latency over Frame Relay is?

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 23 November 2002 01:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: bandwidth vs. latency [7:57899]


Mirza, Timur wrote:
> 
> does anyone have a good reference (e.g., white paper) on the nature of
> bandwidth vs latency & the distinction bet/ the two? 

Well, the distinction is easy. They don't mean the same thing at all. A
good site is Merriam Webster's online dictionary. The 2nd definition for
bandwidth is:

Bandwidth: the capacity for data transfer of an electronic
communications system

Latency, on the other hand, means delay. Websters isn't too helpful in
this case, but might help you understand the origin of the word, which
is related to dormancy.

Cisco's Terms and Acronyms document has a couple definitions of latency,
which are somewhat helpful:

1. Delay between the time a device requests access to a network and the
time it is granted permission to transmit.
 
2. Delay between the time a device receives a frame and the time that
frame is forwarded out the destination port.
 
Those definitions allude to the many contributors to delay (latency) on
a
network:

* media access time
* queuing time at internetworking devices
* processing time at internetworking devices and at the sender and
receiver
* serialization delay to send and receive bits at the rate specified by
the bandwidth of the sending and receiving interfaces
* propagation delay which is distance dependent and to a certain extent
medium dependent, although most media support about 2/3 the speed of
light

Testing latency is reasonably easy. Just do some pings. Predicting,
modeling, and simulating delay is advanced engineering. A few books
cover it at a very basic level, including Top-Down Network Design by
Oppenheimer, and Data Network Design by Spohn.

Howard Berkowitz has written some RFCs that discuss performance
measurement, if I recall.

There are graduate level computer science classes that cover performance
measurement in computer networks at many universities.

And, finally, you can get some info from white papers written by vendors
who sell modelling software. For example, try http://www.netpredict.com/
and http://www.opnet.com/.

_______________________________

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com


> 
> Timur Mirza
> Principal Network Engineer
> Network Planning & Engineering, West Region
> 15505-B Sand Canyon Avenue
> Irvine, California 92618
> Verizon Wireless
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