Thanks for all the answers everyone, I had no immediate intention of going down this road, and I certainly don't now :)
I think I'll review it in a year or so, once the market for these skills has stabilised a bit more, and my "known" rather than simply memorised skills have expanded a bit more. Cheers, Symon -----Original Message----- From: The Long and Winding Road [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 November 2002 04:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE requirement: full time networking? [7:57936] ""richard dumoulin"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hal Logan wrote: > > > > Not to discourage you or anything, but if a candidate crams for > > months and then immediately forgets everything after the lab, that's > > an indication the > > he or she got by using primarily short-term memory. I > > personally don't think > > it's possible to get through the lab unless you make extensive > > use of your > > long term memory. > > Here I have to disagree. In my opinion you don't need memory at all > but understanding. If you understand networking at a high level, then > everythings come without effort, the commands etc ... > > my 2 cents. CL: Respectfully, I disagree with you to an extent. Perhaps it's just a matter of interpretation on my part. But having been there twice my belief based on those experiences is that you have to "know" the configurations. It really is a bit of lengthy memorization, IMHO. CL: take my OSPF interfaces. please! ( OK, sorry ) but "understanding" isn't really enough. You have to be moving your fingers as you read the Lab requirement. when the frame relay requirement for router 1 is "one subinterface connects to routers 2 and 3, and another connects to router 4" you have to "know" all the implications and be typing them without "thinking". OK. Maybe we disagree on the meaning of "understanding" Or maybe I've configured so many examples that my memory is in my fingers. CL: the other day, someone asked whether or not BGP would run over an ip unnumbered link. I "understood" the answer to be yes. I "knew" the answer to be yes. For the Q&D lab I created to prove the point, though, I just banged out the configs, including the neighbor rebgp multihop command and the static route command required on each router. "understanding" or just the fact that I've done enough of these things that is is second nature now? CL: that's why I suggested that the keys for success are 1) the identification of the core topics, 2) the study plan, which includes covering and reviewing all of these core topics at least once every two weeks, and 3) practicing speed of execution. CL: note that I am not saying you are wrong. There are many ways to prepare. It's just that I believe the key is in the fingers, not in the intellect. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "not enough time to study" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:31 PM > > Subject: Re: CCIE requirement: full time networking? [7:57936] > > > > > > > IMHO--the fact is that even if your job is 100% networking > > there are very > > > few jobs where you will actually use the scope of what you > > might see on > > the > > > lab test. i > > > > > > no matter what, be prepared to spend many hours preparing. > > > > > > > > > ""Symon Thurlow"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > Looking for some feedback as to how difficult it would be > > to pass the > > > > CCIE lab if networking was not your primary role. > > > > > > > > For instance, I am a bit of an IT generalist, networking > > probably takes > > > > up 30% of my time. I don't feel confident that only working > > this much > > > > with Cisco devices would enable me to retain enough > > knowledge to pass > > > > the lab. > > > > > > > > I know that it is possible to cram for months and then > > possibly pass, > > > > but it is sort of pointless if you forget it a couple > > months later > > > > (IMHO). > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > Symon ============================================= This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. ============================================= Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=57982&t=57936 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
