The Long and Winding Road wrote: > > ""richard dumoulin"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hal Logan wrote: > > > > > > Not to discourage you or anything, but if a candidate crams > for > > > months and > > > then immediately forgets everything after the lab, that's an > > > indication the > > > he or she got by using primarily short-term memory. I > > > personally don't think > > > it's possible to get through the lab unless you make > extensive > > > use of your > > > long term memory. > > > > Here I have to disagree. In my opinion you don't need memory > at all but > > understanding. If you understand networking at a high level, > then > > everythings come without effort, the commands etc ... > > > > my 2 cents. > > CL: Respectfully, I disagree with you to an extent. Perhaps > it's just a > matter of interpretation on my part. But having been there > twice my belief > based on those experiences is that you have to "know" the > configurations. It > really is a bit of lengthy memorization, IMHO. > > CL: take my OSPF interfaces. please! ( OK, sorry ) but > "understanding" > isn't really enough. You have to be moving your fingers as you > read the Lab > requirement. when the frame relay requirement for router 1 is > "one > subinterface connects to routers 2 and 3, and another connects > to router 4" > you have to "know" all the implications and be typing them > without > "thinking". OK. Maybe we disagree on the meaning of > "understanding" > Or maybe I've configured so many examples that my memory is in > my fingers. > > CL: the other day, someone asked whether or not BGP would run > over an ip > unnumbered link. I "understood" the answer to be yes. I "knew" > the answer to > be yes. For the Q&D lab I created to prove the point, though, I > just banged > out the configs, including the neighbor rebgp multihop command > and the > static route command required on each router. "understanding" > or just the > fact that I've done enough of these things that is is second > nature now? > > CL: that's why I suggested that the keys for success are 1) the > identification of the core topics, 2) the study plan, which > includes > covering and reviewing all of these core topics at least once > every two > weeks, and 3) practicing speed of execution. > > CL: note that I am not saying you are wrong. There are many > ways to prepare. > It's just that I believe the key is in the fingers, not in the > intellect.
But here you are disagreeing and at the same time saying I am right. Cut your head from your shoulders, and let's see how your fingers work !! Just kidding. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "not enough time to study" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:31 PM > > > Subject: Re: CCIE requirement: full time networking? > [7:57936] > > > > > > > > > > IMHO--the fact is that even if your job is 100% networking > > > there are very > > > > few jobs where you will actually use the scope of what you > > > might see on > > > the > > > > lab test. i > > > > > > > > no matter what, be prepared to spend many hours preparing. > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Symon Thurlow"" wrote in message > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > > > Looking for some feedback as to how difficult it would > be > > > to pass the > > > > > CCIE lab if networking was not your primary role. > > > > > > > > > > For instance, I am a bit of an IT generalist, networking > > > probably takes > > > > > up 30% of my time. I don't feel confident that only > working > > > this much > > > > > with Cisco devices would enable me to retain enough > > > knowledge to pass > > > > > the lab. > > > > > > > > > > I know that it is possible to cram for months and then > > > possibly pass, > > > > > but it is sort of pointless if you forget it a couple > > > months later > > > > > (IMHO). > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > Symon > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58085&t=57936 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
