I am surprised that I was misunderstood.... I had not meant to distinguish between a Graduate degree to a CCIE nor Harvard to the "Lab Rats Nest".........What I was trying to focus was the point that compared to taking exams in College to taking the CCIE Lab exam, the latter was more difficult because either you Fail or you Pass...no concept of grades here. And definitely, as someone pointed out just getting admitted to a graduate school is more difficult than deciding one fine morning to start studying for the CCIE Lab. In that respect, a lot of CCIE Lab candidates would fail. And given a choice, how many of us would prefer a CCIE or entrance to Harvard!!
Here is my new "mantra".....CCIE or a Graduate Degree.....Get BOTH!!!!!! >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: OT: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481] >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 19:56:22 GMT > >"Cisco Nuts" wrote, > > >Very well said!! > > > >As I ALWAYS tell my students: > > > >You can go to any school (including Harvard) and you can be assured that > >you WILL pass the exams with a A, B, C or a D grade if you study the > >material. > >At the undergraduate level. The graduate level requires you >demonstrate the ability to do innovative research. The CCIE, in its >stated philosophy of not corresponding to best common practice, in >the possibility that you lose points for including useful commands, >and the logistics of its scoring push toward a particular school >solution. > > > > >The CCIE Lab - NO way man!! You can study and study and study ALL the > >materials and you will either pass or FAIL!!!!!!!!!!! It's a one shot!! > > > >NO way around this. NO grades here. > > > >So which one is more difficult?? Take a guess!! > >Big difference between BS and MS/PhD. BS, I might agree could be >easier than CCIE. Still, they teach and evaluate different skill >sets. > >I'm not sure I'm articulating this well, but there's an underlying >analogy that says that a Super Bowl ring shows you've passed exams >more difficult than CCIE. Now, if you had an elite CCIE that required >you to configure while staying in the pocket and relying on your >blockers... > >But elite NFL coaches may not have been distinguished players -- the >majority were not. A CCIE certainly can configure and troubleshoot a >router---but can he or she design one that has competitive >functionality? Don't get me wrong -- I know some very good >physicians whose hands I'd put my life into -- even though I know >their knowledge of the underlying physiology may not be very great. >Instinct and dexterity ARE requirements for surgeons. > >BTW, I do consider this a fundamentally silly discussion, but I think >it's somewhat relevant for newbies to know that neither the cert nor >the misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60603&t=59481 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
