>From what I've seen, you can still get very high rates. The problem is that in order to get those kind of rates, you either have to be very well connected, have a big name (far beyond what a CCIE could ever give you - for example, Dr. Vint Cerf could easily command a princely rate, but of course he "only" invented TCP/IP), or be an excellent salesman, or usually all of the above. Furthermore, it is extremely dangerous to assume that you will be getting that high rate consistently for 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year. The Usually the majority of your time will be spent scoping out clients, marketing yourself, and doing paperwork - things for which you are making no money.
Also from what I've seen, for true success as a self-employed person, what is much more important than your technical skills is your business savvy. I know a bunch of technically brilliant people who could never run their own gig, and by the same token, I know guys who, quite frankly, suck technically, but have the slick salesmanship to be very successful at running their own business. You might ask how such people can actually get jobs done if they aren't technically sharp, and the answer is simple - they hire others to do it for them. To digress slightly,this is why at practically every tech company I know, the top salesmen always make substantially more than the top engineers - often by a factor of 3 to 5 times. ""supernet"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Not sure about Chicago area, but in my area, rate is generally above > $150/hr. And guess what, I'm in Silicon Valley. > > To configure a router or switch is simple. Worst case, pick up the phone > and call TAC will solve most configuration problems. Customers are > looking for someone that can run the show. CCIE is not enough, you also > need to know how to do project management and very importantly, how to > BS. > > This is based on several interviews I had during the past couple of > weeks. > > Yoshi > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Mike Schlenger > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394] > > Really? WHERE DO I SIGN?????? :) > > Mike > Chicagoland CCIE #7079 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Munzani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:12 PM > To: steve r; Jay Greenberg; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment > > > Rate depends on who is paying and how much do they have? :-) > > In chicago area $125/Hr is considered normal with 1 way travel time. If > you > got a fortune 500 client, you can easily bump it up to $175/Hr. and they > will not argue about it. > > Sam > > > > CCIE self employed, > > well if you find another CCIE to partner with you can get silver > partner > > status, (and some other requirements too) > > > > If you are in the biz you should know...pix...vpn and some other stuff > the > > hourly work is great but it depends on the clients locations...and the > > billing rate.. > > Good luck in this market it may be better then being out of work like > my > > friend is (and he is a CCIE too) > > Bill at what you can get $100 to $200 an hour or more > > or less if its cash.. > > > > Stephen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jay Greenberg" > > To: ; > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM > > Subject: CCIE Self-Employment > > > > > > > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves? What's the money > > > like, what sort of companies do you work for? Do you do short-term > or > > > long term contracts? Hourly work? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -- > > > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021 > > > > > > . > > . > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=62425&t=62394 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
