""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> I'm loath to continue this discussion, but I do have a question for Kelly.
> Why do you have a VLAN at all in your example?? Isn't a single VLAN sort
of
> like one hand clapping? Seriously, what role is it playing in your
network?


said half seriously, isn't a network with NO vlans no different than a
network with ONE vlan? ;->


>
> Of course you don't have to have VLANs to do routing/L3 switching, as you
> probabaly know. But maybe there's some weird configuration gotcha,
specific
> to the 6509? Just curious. Thanks.
>
> Larry said the majority of the Cisco campus is networked with L3 switches
> and not using vlans. That says a lot right there!
>
> Priscilla
>
> Kelly Cobean wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >    I'd like to add to this something that I haven't seen in
> > other posts yet,
> > and that is a quick look at layer2 function.  I have a Catalyst
> > 6509 with an
> > MSFC on it.  There is only *ONE* VLAN configured on the MSFC,
> > however, that
> > VLAN has several secondary addresses assigned to it (I know,
> > not a great
> > solution, but let's not go there).  If I do a "show mls entry"
> > on my switch,
> > it is full of entries for hosts talking to hosts on the same
> > VLAN.  My
> > point?  When a host wants to talk to a host on another subnet
> > (VLAN or not),
> > it ANDs the address with it's own mask, determines that the
> > host is in fact
> > on a different subnet, then arps (if necessary) for it's
> > default gateway
> > (the MSFC) and sends the packet on it's way.  The 6509/MSFC
> > receive the
> > packet and begin the MLS cache setup process (candidate packet,
> > timeout,
> > etc).  All this is still done inspite of the fact that the MSFC
> > only has a
> > single VLAN.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of
> > Stephen Hoover
> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:33 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Does MLS (Layer 3 switching) require VLANs?
> > [7:63147]
> >
> >
> > > > -------------------------
> > > > actually it is by doing secondaries, but i would highly
> > recommend doing
> > > > vlans if possible. keep it clean and simple.
> > >
> > >
> > > one may also configure the physical interfaces as L3
> > interfaces - just as
> > > one might do on a router with several ethernet ports.
> >
> >
> > Oooooo ok, now THAT statement leads me to believe the L3
> > switching IS
> > possible without VLANs.
> >
> >
> > -Stephen




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