A
>And that's exactly what would happen if you did the inter-VLAN routing on a
>router too, using subinterfaces for each VLAN/ IP subnet. :-)
>
>And, if it were a high-end router, it could do this at wire speed and would
>have a RIB and FIB, just like someone else described for the 6500. The 7500
>router has had that sort of architecture for years, if I'm not mistaken.
>Howard has given us lots of examples of other high-end routers that have
>this sort of architecture. Of course, these high-end routers are probably
>way more expensive than the so-called L3 switch and probably have all sorts
>of features that you might not need in a campus network.

Last I check, extreme make some pretty cheap bridges with integrated 
routing :)   Naturally, to get a bunch of packet processing without 
mortgaging forwarding capacity, you'll end up spending more 
bucks.  Howard's point about the relevance of wire speed routing in the 
enterprise is dead on though - most folks don't need it and wouldn't make 
use of it even if they had it.


>So, we're back to the first answer. The difference between a router and a L3
>switch is marketing. Also economics.
>
>Sorry, I just had to play devil's advocate. What a shame that Cisco has
>mangled this so much in their intro training materials.
>
>Priscilla
>
> > ...
> >
> > Does that help?
> >
> > Oh - and I think you meant to say "layer 3 switching" is a
> > marketing term,
> > not scientific or engineering in nature. ... you said "layer 3
> > routing" ...
> > Thanks!
> > TJ
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeVoe, Charles (PKI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:45 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]
> >
> > OK, let me try this again.  I am trying to figure out the
> > difference between
> > conventional layer 3 routing and layer 3 switching.  A little
> > background.  I
> > am currently working towards my CCNA (have been for about 3
> > years).  At any
> > rate, everything I read and look at says that
> > switching/bridging is a layer
> > 2 function, routing is a layer 3 function.
> >
> > Either I don't have a good grasp of the OSI model, switching,
> > routing, VLANs
> > or all of the above.
> >
> > The network:
> >
> > Host A  10.1.1.2 MAC 00.AA
> > Host B
> > 10.1.2.2 MAC 00.BB
> >   |        10.1.1.1 MAC 01.AA          10.1.2.1 MAC
> > 02.BB        |
> >  switch
> > A-----------------------Router-------------------------switch B
> >             10.1.1.0/24                        10.1.2.0/24
> >
> > This is an ethernet network.  Both segments are connected by a
> > traditional
> > router say a 2500.
> > In this instance the router interfaces are subnet A 10.1.1.1,
> > and subnet B
> > 10.1.2.1
> >
> > For simplicity, assume ARP cache is empty.
> > Host A wishes to ping Host B
> > End user on Host A enters - ping 10.1.2.2
> > The IP packet places the source address 10.1.1.2 and the
> > destination address
> > 10.1.2.2 into the packet.
> > The IP protocol examines the IP address and based on the IP
> > address
> > determines this is in another subnet.
> > An ARP request goes out for 10.1.1.1 (default gateway) and the
> > MAC address
> > is found.
> > The DLL then places the source MAC address 00.AA and the
> > destination MAC
> > 01.AA into the frame.
> > The frame then goes out the wire to the destination MAC.
> > The router interface sees this frame as destined for itself.  It
> > de-encapsulates the frame removing the MAC addresses.  The
> > router then
> > examines the IP address, based on the routing table it knows
> > the destination
> > port.
> > The router leaves the same IP source (10.1.1.2) and destination
> > (10.1.2.2)
> > in the packet.
> > The frame is rebuilt with the new MAC address of source 02.BB
> > and
> > destination 00.BB
> > Host B grabs this packet and does it's thing.
> >
> > Now, if I replace the router with a 6509 switch, with routing,
> > how does the
> > process change?
> > Said 6509 would be equipped with a 10/100 card so that the
> > hosts are now
> > directly connected.  The router interface is now a virtual
> > interface, there
> > is no physical interface.  Which is another question.  How does
> > the 6509
> > determine this virtual address?
> >
> > Am I correct?
> > Inter VLAN communication cannot occur without a router.
> > Switching is based on MAC address.
> > Routing is based on IP address.
> >
> > I believe the term "layer 3 routing" is a marketing term, not
> > scientific or
> > engineering in nature.
> >
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