----- Original Message -----
From: "MADMAN" 
To: "The Long and Winding Road" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 February, 2003 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: Dropped Packet on 6506 switch [7:63053]


>
>
> The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> > hey, Dave, request for clarification
> >
> >
> > whenever I run my config tools ( either CCO or NetFormX, which validates
> > against Cisco's config server anyway ), the requirement is CAT OS plus
IOS.
> > I can go CAT OS only, but I cannot get a validation using IOS only.
>
>    I Don't use the config tool, sounds like it is probably just as well:)
>
> >
> > So is that an error in the validation engine? or is something else going
on
> > that I don't understand.
>
>    Send me the URL you use for this tool, I'll take a look at it.


in case anyone is still wondering, I've been doing some more work involving
configuring 65xx switches using the config tools. I think I get it now.

a 65xx switch can run native IOS on a regular old sup with MSFC

OR

it can run Cat OS ( on a regular old supervisor )

OR

it can run hybrid mode, using Cat OS on the sup and an L3 IOS on the MSFC
card


does that match with what you know, Dave?



>
> >
> > on a 3550, I can configure all ports as routed ports, or I can configure
all
> > ports as switched ports, or any combination.
>
>    6500 running native you can do the same.
>
> >
> > The 4xxx boxes with sup 3 or better can go IOS only.
>
>    6500 in native mode looks like the 4000 with a supIII except the 4000
> with a supIII, all ports are L2 by default and on a 6500 runing native
> they are L3, go figure.  With the introduction of the 4500 switch the
> 6500 is the only platform running catOS that is being produced.
>
> >
> > The 65xx seems to be the problem child, as anyone who has stumbled
through
> > either tool mentioned above can attest to.
>
>    Check out this URL:
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_tech
_note09186a00801350b8.shtml
>
>    Dave
>
>
>
> >
> > any clarifications you can offer?
> >
> >
> >
> > ""MADMAN""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >>The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>65xx without the MSFC card run Cat OS mode. Add the MSCF card, and you
> >>
> > have
> >
> >>>hybrid mode. unless somethng has changed recently, you cannot run a
65xx
> >>
> > in
> >
> >>>native IOS mode only - it has to be an L2 box alone, or a hybrid box,
> >>>running IOS and Cat OS.
> >>
> >>   Actually you can run a 6500 in native only.  In native mode all ports
> >>are layer 3 ports.  In fact in order to run most of the OSM cards you
> >>must run native mode, the inverse is true for most voice modules.
> >>
> >>   Dave
> >>
> >>Native6506#sh ver
> >>Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> >>IOS (tm) c6sup2_rp Software (c6sup2_rp-JS-M), Version 12.1(13)E, EARLY
> >>DEPLOYMEN
> >>T RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> >>TAC Support: http://www.cisco.com/tac
> >>Copyright (c) 1986-2002 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> >>Compiled Wed 04-Sep-02 18:45 by eaarmas
> >>Image text-base: 0x40008C00, data-base: 0x41A68000
> >>
> >>ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.1(4r)E, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> >>BOOTLDR: c6sup2_rp Software (c6sup2_rp-JS-M), Version 12.1(13)E, EARLY
> >>DEPLOYMEN
> >>T RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> >>
> >>Native6506 uptime is 6 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, 24 minutes
> >>Time since Native6506 switched to active is 6 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours,
> >>23 minute
> >>s
> >>System returned to ROM by power-on (SP by power-on)
> >>System image file is "slot0:c6sup12-js-mz.121-13.E.bin"
> >>
> >>cisco Catalyst 6000 (R7000) processor with 112640K/18432K bytes of
memory.
> >>Processor board ID SAD05020HUX
> >>R7000 CPU at 300Mhz, Implementation 39, Rev 2.1, 256KB L2, 1024KB L3
Cache
> >>Last reset from power-on
> >>Bridging software.
> >>X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
> >>SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
> >>TN3270 Emulation software.
> >>8 Virtual Ethernet/IEEE 802.3  interface(s)
> >>120 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
> >>4 Gigabit Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
> >>381K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
> >>
> >>16384K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> >>Standby is up
> >>Standby has 112640K/18432K bytes of memory.
> >>
> >>Configuration register is 0x2102
> >>
> >>Native6506#
> >>
> >>Native6506#sh conf
> >>Using 8122 out of 391160 bytes
> >>!
> >>version 12.1
> >>service timestamps debug uptime
> >>service timestamps log uptime
> >>no service password-encryption
> >>!
> >>hostname Native6506
> >>!
> >>boot system flash slot0:c6sup12-js-mz.121-13.E.bin
> >>boot bootldr bootflash:c6msfc2-boot-mz.121-4.E1
> >>enable password cisco
> >>!
> >>ip subnet-zero
> >>!
> >>!
> >>no ip domain-lookup
> >>!
> >>mls flow ip destination
> >>mls flow ipx destination
> >>!
> >>redundancy
> >>  mode rpr-plus
> >>  main-cpu
> >>   auto-sync running-config
> >>   auto-sync standard
> >>!
> >>!
> >>!
> >>interface GigabitEthernet1/1
> >>  no ip address
> >>  switchport
> >>  switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
> >>  switchport trunk native vlan 64
> >>!
> >>interface GigabitEthernet1/2
> >>  no ip address
> >>  shutdown
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Priscilla
> >>>>
> >>>>Sam Sneed wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I'm not sure what you mean by hybrid mode. I have the sh ver,
> >>>>>sh mod, sh ver
> >>>>>for MSFC and  below. I have nothing plugged into at leat 3
> >>>>>ports which still
> >>>>>report dropped packets. 800,000 daily. Whats strange is that
> >>>>>the 800,000 is
> >>>>>almost the same on all 3 ports. I have disabled them since then
> >>>>>but would
> >>>>>like to know why I was getting those numbers. The MSFC does the
> >>>>>layer 3
> >>>>>routing, but the dropped packets were at L2 I believe. Any
> >>>>>ideas?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Console1> sh ver
> >>>>>WS-C6509 Software, Version NmpSW: 7.1(2)
> >>>>>Copyright (c) 1995-2002 by Cisco Systems
> >>>>>NMP S/W compiled on Feb  7 2002, 16:06:00
> >>>>>
> >>>>>System Bootstrap Version: 5.3(1)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hardware Version: 2.0  Model: WS-C6509  Serial #:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>PS1  Module: WS-CAC-2500W    Serial #:
> >>>>>PS2  Module: WS-CAC-1300W    Serial #:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mod Port Model               Serial #    Versions
> >>>>>--- ---- ------------------- ----------- ---------------------
> >>>>>1   2    WS-X6K-SUP1A-2GE    SA         Hw :         3.1
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 5.3(1)
> >>>>>                                        Fw1: 5.1(1)CSX
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 7.1(2)
> >>>>>                                        Sw1: 7.1(2)
> >>>>>        WS-F6K-PFC          S            Hw : 1.1
> >>>>>2   2    WS-X6K-SUP1A-2GE    SAxxxxxxxxxx Hw : 3.1
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 5.3(1)
> >>>>>                                        Fw1: 5.1(1)CSX
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 7.1(2)
> >>>>>                                        Sw1: 7.1(2)
> >>>>>        WS-F6K-PFC          Sxxxxxxxxxx Hw : 1.1
> >>>>>3   48   WS-X6348-RJ-45      SAxxxxxxxxx Hw : 1.4
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 5.4(2)
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 7.1(2)
> >>>>>4   48   WS-X6348-RJ-45      xxxxxxxxxxxx Hw : 6.0
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 5.4(2)
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 7.1(2)
> >>>>>        WS-F6K-VPWR                     Hw : 1.0
> >>>>>5   48   WS-X6348-RJ-45      SAL0xxxx422 Hw : 6.0
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 5.4(2)
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 7.1(2)
> >>>>>        WS-F6K-VPWR                     Hw : 1.0
> >>>>>6   16   WS-X6416-GBIC       SAxxxxx0JUW Hw : 1.2
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 5.4(2)
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 7.1(2)
> >>>>>7   48   WS-X6248-TEL        SAD0xxxxx48 Hw : 1.0
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 4.2(0.24)VAI78
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 7.1(2)
> >>>>>8   48   WS-X6248A-TEL       SADxxxxxx0S Hw : 2.0
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 5.4(2)
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 7.1(2)
> >>>>>9   48   WS-X6248A-TEL       SADxxxxxxRZ Hw : 2.0
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 5.4(2)
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 7.1(2)
> >>>>>15  1    WS-F6K-MSFC         SAD04xx0DSF Hw : 1.4
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 12.1(3a)E4
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 12.1(3a)E4
> >>>>>16  1    WS-F6K-MSFC         SAD04xx0BHV Hw : 1.4
> >>>>>                                        Fw : 12.1(3a)E4
> >>>>>                                        Sw : 12.1(3a)E4
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      DRAM                    FLASH                   NVRAM
> >>>>>Module Total   Used    Free    Total   Used    Free    Total U
> >>>>>------ ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----- -
> >>>>>1       65408K  44172K  21236K  16384K   9786K   6598K  512K
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Uptime is 352 days, 4 hours, 30 minutes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Console1> sh mod
> >>>>>Mod Slot Ports Module-Type               Model
> >>>>>Sub Status
> >>>>>--- ---- ----- ------------------------- -------------------
> >>>>>--- ------
> >>>>>1   1    2     1000BaseX Supervisor      WS-X6K-SUP1A-2GE
> >>>>>yes ok
> >>>>>15  1    1     Multilayer Switch Feature WS-F6K-MSFC
> >>>>>no  ok
> >>>>>2   2    2     1000BaseX Supervisor      WS-X6K-SUP1A-2GE
> >>>>>yes standb
> >>>>>16  2    1     Multilayer Switch Feature WS-F6K-MSFC
> >>>>>no  ok
> >>>>>3   3    48    10/100BaseTX Ethernet     WS-X6348-RJ-45
> >>>>>no  ok
> >>>>>4   4    48    10/100BaseTX Ethernet     WS-X6348-RJ-45
> >>>>>yes ok
> >>>>>5   5    48    10/100BaseTX Ethernet     WS-X6348-RJ-45
> >>>>>yes ok
> >>>>>6   6    16    1000BaseX Ethernet        WS-X6416-GBIC
> >>>>>no  ok
> >>>>>7   7    48    10/100BaseTX Ethernet     WS-X6248-TEL
> >>>>>no  ok
> >>>>>8   8    48    10/100BaseTX Ethernet     WS-X6248A-TEL
> >>>>>no  ok
> >>>>>9   9    48    10/100BaseTX Ethernet     WS-X6248A-TEL
> >>>>>no  ok
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>6509>sh ver
> >>>>>Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> >>>>>IOS (tm) MSFC Software (C6MSFC-IS-M), Version 12.1(3a)E4, EARLY
> >>>>>DEPLOYMENT
> >>>>>RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> >>>>>Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> >>>>>Compiled Sat 14-Oct-00 00:01 by eaarmas
> >>>>>Image text-base: 0x60008950, data-base: 0x60DA8000
> >>>>>
> >>>>>ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.0(3)XE, RELEASE SOFTWARE
> >>>>>BOOTFLASH: MSFC Software (C6MSFC-BOOT-M), Version 12.1(1)EX,
> >>>>>EARLY
> >>>>>DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>6509 uptime is 50 weeks, 2 days, 4 hours, 45 minutes
> >>>>>System returned to ROM by power-on
> >>>>>Running default software
> >>>>>
> >>>>>cisco Cat6k-MSFC (R5000) processor with 114688K/16384K bytes of
> >>>>>memory.
> >>>>>Processor board ID SAD04130DSF
> >>>>>R5000 CPU at 200Mhz, Implementation 35, Rev 2.1, 512KB L2 Cache
> >>>>>Last reset from power-on
> >>>>>Bridging software.
> >>>>>X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
> >>>>>6 Virtual Ethernet/IEEE 802.3  interface(s)
> >>>>>123K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
> >>>>>4096K bytes of packet SRAM memory.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>16384K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 256K).
> >>>>>Configuration register is 0x102
> >>>>>
> >>>>>6509>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>""MADMAN""  wrote in message
> >>>>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Not real clear on your description.  You see dropped packets
> >>>>>
> >>>>>on
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>interfaces with nothing plugged in!?  Since you refer to the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>6500 as a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>switch I assume your running hybrid mode.  You also mention
> >>>>>
> >>>>>there is an
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>MSFC.  I ASSume again that your seeing drops on the L2
> >>>>>
> >>>>>interface but
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>with nothing plugged into it is a bit strange indeed!  Can
> >>>>>
> >>>>>you send more
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>info?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  Dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Sam Sneed wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hello,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I'm seeing strange things on a 6500 switch. I see dropped
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>pakets and int
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>errors on interfaces with no servers plugged in. These are
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>of signifcant
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>amounts and I believe tis causing problems.We're talking
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>about 800,000
> >>>>>in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>24
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>hours. Does anyone have any idea on what this happens on
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>INT that aren't
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>even active?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>This switch has a layer3 sup1a card that does the routing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>David Madland
> >>>>>>CCIE# 2016
> >>>>>>Sr. Network Engineer
> >>>>>>Qwest Communications
> >>>>>>612-664-3367
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--Winston
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Churchill
> >>>>>
> >>--
> >>David Madland
> >>CCIE# 2016
> >>Sr. Network Engineer
> >>Qwest Communications
> >>612-664-3367
> >>
> >>"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
> >>Churchill
> --
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
>
> "You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
> Churchill




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